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re: I like Nuss but he doesn’t see safeties

Posted on 12/4/22 at 11:35 am to
Posted by White Tiger
Dallas
Member since Jul 2007
12830 posts
Posted on 12/4/22 at 11:35 am to
Nuss >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> JD5 as a QB.

Posted by countrytiger60
Larose
Member since Sep 2018
3634 posts
Posted on 12/4/22 at 11:36 am to
as Jim Mora would say, shoulda ,woulda coulda. but it wasn't. at least he made the throw. Daniels would have took off running or took a sack!
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260576 posts
Posted on 12/4/22 at 11:46 am to
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Daniels would have took off running or took a sack!


If you watch where JD throws, he rarely challenges safety coverage which led to a limited attack.
Posted by ulmtiger
Member since Jan 2008
1876 posts
Posted on 12/4/22 at 11:55 am to
I really like how these QBs compliment each other and hope that Kelly will find a way to play both guys.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118819 posts
Posted on 12/4/22 at 11:56 am to
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I like JD but he doesn’t see receivers
Posted by Jasonwilliamstaxes28
Houston
Member since Sep 2022
203 posts
Posted on 12/4/22 at 11:56 am to
At least he knows that his receivers exist at all lmao
Posted by TaderSalad
mudbug territory
Member since Jul 2014
24656 posts
Posted on 12/4/22 at 11:58 am to
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like JD but he doesn’t see receivers



Winner winner
Posted by Coonas Tiger61
Member since Oct 2022
15 posts
Posted on 12/4/22 at 12:11 pm to
I mean what else do you do in the last meaningful game of the year and you’re down 20+ points ina. Game you were never supposed to win? What does he have to lose. He went out there and tried (and did) make some big plays. If that’s how he plays every game every down then that’s a problem but I don’t see any issue with him slinging it around yesterday
Posted by thekid
Anna, Tx
Member since May 2006
3937 posts
Posted on 12/4/22 at 12:14 pm to
Nuss stares down his receivers…it’s not that he doesn’t see safeties, he just doesn’t take them into account…
Good news is that is very correctable
Posted by des4271
Member since Oct 2014
4028 posts
Posted on 12/4/22 at 12:16 pm to
Exactly, when you use the whole field, vertically and horizontally, it spreads the defense out and you get better numbers up front in the run game. So, even though JD brings a different element to the game they can nullify the effectiveness of it because he doesn’t stretch the defense, therefore, they can play closer to the LOS and negate the run game.
Posted by financetiger38
Member since Nov 2022
3182 posts
Posted on 12/4/22 at 12:23 pm to
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His first throw of the game should’ve been picked off

It was 3rd and 18 and the ensuing punt didn’t go as far as his throw. Some of you seem to think all interceptions are the same. They are not.
Posted by Chalkywhite84
New orleans
Member since Dec 2016
27232 posts
Posted on 12/4/22 at 12:49 pm to
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His first throw of the game should’ve been picked off




And you could see kelly go over to him and tell him this exact thing.

It was cover 2 and he tried to fit it in. That is always going to be a tough throw.

I do love nuss but he needs time on the field. I just don't see him getting that time to learn under kelly.
Posted by Yippie_Ky_yae
Member since Jun 2019
3749 posts
Posted on 12/4/22 at 12:53 pm to
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I like JD but he doesn’t see receivers



Posted by Htownbayubengal
Houston
Member since Oct 2022
1406 posts
Posted on 12/4/22 at 1:17 pm to
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I like JD but he doesn’t see receivers


LOL. No shite.

It's like people don't understand Nuss is a freshman that has had very little in game reps, especially against the #1 D in the country. He played a hell of a half. Felt like we could score on any possession in the second half.
Posted by dallastigers
Member since Dec 2003
5711 posts
Posted on 12/4/22 at 1:19 pm to
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I like JD but he doesn’t see receivers

He doesn’t have the arm strength.


I do think it’s not always that JD doesn’t see the receivers but that he knows he has weaker arm and lacks confidence making throw early throwing open in smaller windows and with pass rush affecting him getting legs and body into throws. Hesitates and misses chance. His throwing also is more affected by cold weather and wind.

It’s good to know limitations, and he must make some of these throws in practice without a pass rush or why call these routes outside of them being decoys to clear defenders out. During games it just appears what he considers to be open and safe becomes much smaller, and until in each game he gets comfortable making some of them defenses have much less to defend.

For a running QB JD doesn’t really throw in the run. It’s shuffling in pocket keeping feet ready to throw or it becomes a run.

Nuss needs to know his arm alone can’t beat safeties or underneath coverage in SEC or even in college like it could in high school. Yesterday he needed to push being down so many scores, but when played against Southern he looked awful because he was trying to force things to make plays with his shot. He looked better in other regular season games he had some snaps than he did against Southern. Nuss or any non-running QB needs a better running game from a RB. Daniels has some called runs but also has a lot of runs from called passes, and it feels like we get away from a true running game at times which can’t happen with Nuss.
Posted by Dandy Chiggins
Member since Jan 2021
502 posts
Posted on 12/4/22 at 1:19 pm to
He was also PUSHING because we were down 3 or 4 scores.
Some of those throws, I would assume, he might not otherwise make.
He played GREAT coming off the bench not seeing much time all year.
Posted by AtlantaLSUfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2009
23075 posts
Posted on 12/4/22 at 1:29 pm to
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I like JD but he doesn’t see receivers

nailed it
Posted by mtntiger
Asheville, NC
Member since Oct 2003
26640 posts
Posted on 12/4/22 at 1:31 pm to
The thing about his 50/50 balls is that a good percentage of the time they ended up well for LSU.

He completed enough that UGA had to respect the deep throw. That opened up the deep middle, which he exploited as well.

The INT was bad, but he simply misread the coverage. That can be corrected.

In college, more often than not, you get DPI, which is a net positive for the offense. Elite cover guys will shrug that off as the cost of doing business, but other guys will get gun-shy, which helps the WR.

Even an incomplete pass on the right down and distance isn't a bad thing. It lets the defense know you're willing to go there.

The best thing about last night is the two glaring mistakes Nuss made are very coachable. Explain what he missed in coverage on the INT, and tell him to be more aware of his internal clock to avoid the fumble.

Otherwise, awesome game. Work to get better.
Posted by Solo Cam
Member since Sep 2015
32637 posts
Posted on 12/4/22 at 1:35 pm to
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my concern are the number of 50/50 balls that are thrown by Nuss
That's my concern with Jayden as well. Nuss throws a lot of them and Jayden doesn't throw any
Posted by Tigerpride18
Lakewood Colorado
Member since Sep 2017
29449 posts
Posted on 12/4/22 at 1:43 pm to
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And JD doesnt see receivers


Why must it always be a response about the other qb when talking about one? He said nothing about jd in the op .

Makes this board now the worst on td
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