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re: I don’t see Nuss making that second year jump like Burrow and Daniels
Posted on 10/27/24 at 3:08 pm to 777Tiger
Posted on 10/27/24 at 3:08 pm to 777Tiger
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Daniels was not very good his first year here, don’t know what changed but he was mediocre as hell that year
Nuss threw as many INTs last night as Daniels did the entire 2022 season.
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Posted on 10/27/24 at 3:10 pm to Chef Curry
This is dumb as frick. He fricked up last night, but his stats are better than Burrow or Daniel’s first year LSU stats. Do tell why he wouldn’t improve from year 1, to 2.
Posted on 10/27/24 at 3:14 pm to BlackAngus
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Nuss is never in a panic. He is always cool, and keep a confident demeanor. Even the commentators mentioned it. Get a grip. Nuss had a bad game, but it isn't the end of the damn world. And he is still a good QB that will be drafted high after next year.
False. Nuss back peddles more than any QB I’ve seen. A good defense watches tape and knows where he is going when he back peddles.
Posted on 10/27/24 at 3:27 pm to TigerScorpion
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This is dumb as frick. He fricked up last night, but his stats are better than Burrow or Daniel’s first year LSU stats. Do tell why he wouldn’t improve from year 1, to 2.
Look, I’m not a football coach. But the people I do know in the profession will tell you that one of the hardest habits to break in a QB is bad mechanics (back foot throws and not setting feet in this situation). Nuss is in his 4th year of college and 3rd season in BK’s system. If they haven’t broken those bad habits yet they likely never will.
I get it, Nuss isn’t the only one to blame. The OL has been underwhelming and the run game is nonexistent. Nuss has made several wtf decisions in each game and LSU has been fortunate that it didn’t result in more losses.
Posted on 10/27/24 at 3:38 pm to statman34
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Any QB who has played at any level, even if they cannot run, has an instinct in them that if the defense is wide open and you can get yards by running, you do it if your reads are not there. He clearly doesn’t have this instinct and it is puzzling
The good news is this is fixable. The bad news is you nailed it. People have been arguing with me about it, but I really think he has a shot to pick up the first if he tucks it on the first pick play.
And if not, 3 & out is better than what happened lol.
Posted on 10/27/24 at 3:40 pm to Mandtgr47
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I don't have the answer, but I am beginning to think the WR's just aren't open because they aren't elite,
When in doubt, blame anyone but Nussmeier
Posted on 10/27/24 at 3:54 pm to Chef Curry
My biggest complaint with Nussmeier - by a mile, is his habit of throwing the ball into coverage. It's like his mind just goes completely blank, like he can't remember all those other times he's done it. A split second later, he's got his hands on his helmet, like he's completely shocked at the result.
Seriously, it's like his mind goes completely blank, and he throws it to a receiver who is covered; sometimes by two or three defenders.
He can throw it away or even take a sack. At least that's better than giving the other team the ball. He never learns. It's puzzling.
Seriously, it's like his mind goes completely blank, and he throws it to a receiver who is covered; sometimes by two or three defenders.
He can throw it away or even take a sack. At least that's better than giving the other team the ball. He never learns. It's puzzling.
Posted on 10/27/24 at 3:59 pm to BillF
Yea I mean last night was a bad night for him. Practically anything would have been better than airmailing a 20 yd rainbow into the middle of the field. It is what it is. Kid has a chance to learn something from it & grow.
Posted on 10/27/24 at 4:21 pm to Chef Curry
Let’s don’t start this again. I read post after post telling us that there was no way Daniels improves as much as Burrow did and we should play for the future and start Nuss.
Posted on 10/27/24 at 4:45 pm to 777Tiger
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Nuss ain’t for us
Don't include me with that !
Posted on 10/27/24 at 4:47 pm to statman34
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Any QB who has played at any level, even if they cannot run, has an instinct in them that if the defense is wide open and you can get yards by running, you do it if your reads are not there. He clearly doesn’t have this instinct and it is puzzling
Jamarcus didn’t get this “instinct” till mid/late of his last year.
Posted on 10/27/24 at 4:47 pm to Chef Curry
His receivers are nowhere near the level of Nabers or Thomas.
Lacy is very good but he's not quite a Nabers type and he's not going to leave someone in the dust like Thomas. Anderson is fast but he does not have the height of Thomas. Nussmeier is something of a throwback as a QB. He's a pocket passer in a game that today favors a versatile QB like Daniels or even Burrow. What hurts him as it did Daniels is that he has no real threatening run game.Daniels was the run game and Daniels escape ability covered up a lot of deficiencies on the offensive line which is a pass protection line that cannot open up holes
Lacy is very good but he's not quite a Nabers type and he's not going to leave someone in the dust like Thomas. Anderson is fast but he does not have the height of Thomas. Nussmeier is something of a throwback as a QB. He's a pocket passer in a game that today favors a versatile QB like Daniels or even Burrow. What hurts him as it did Daniels is that he has no real threatening run game.Daniels was the run game and Daniels escape ability covered up a lot of deficiencies on the offensive line which is a pass protection line that cannot open up holes
Posted on 10/27/24 at 4:49 pm to statman34
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He clearly doesn’t have this instinct and it is puzzling
There’s nothing “puzzling” about it. He’s not that great of a QB. His completion percentages speak for themselves.
Posted on 10/27/24 at 5:01 pm to Chef Curry
He seems to be a very unserious about how he needs to read the defense, and whether to run or throw. He will not run, he doesn’t even think twice about throwing into heavy coverage, his decision making ability is terrible in every game. We got very lucky against Ole Miss, & S. Carolina with QB out. Yes our receivers are dropping balls ?? badly this year to make it even worse. But, how does he gage the the throw when it’s way over there head or too short from where the receiver is to be. Honestly watching him all year I have been a nervous wreck. Kicking field goals and not scoring in the red zone is a huge problem to fix. I would bench him, if it was not BAMA, but yet maybe I would. He doesn’t seem to improve week to week he is getting more erratic and reckless.
Posted on 10/27/24 at 6:50 pm to hashtag
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so, you acknowledge it's the first time he's faced this type of pressure. Then, you declare he can't handle it? It was his first time having to deal with it. My guess is he'll learn a lot from last night and get better. It's what almost every QB who has ever played QB does.
He is what people think he is. A gunslinger looking to score on every play. He also has yet to prove he can handle a significant pass rush when things break down.
People propping him up as a Heisman hopeful ignored how good the OL has been in giving him time. Bama will be the game that determines if he can handle the pressure or not. They will blitz the hell out of him and it will make him have to make decisions an again like last night. He tends to play hero ball and that will not work with this team.
Posted on 10/27/24 at 6:59 pm to Chef Curry
This is the kind of stuff people were saying about both Burrow and Daniels before their second year as starters, so I feel like Nuss is right on track.
Posted on 10/27/24 at 7:04 pm to WaterLink
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"Daniels is a 4 year starter, 2018 was Burrow's first year starting, it's impossible for Daniels to improve. He is what he is, that dog won't hunt".
JD5 was a freak. an anomaly. nobody normally who starts 3 years make the jump he made in his 4th year. the posters who played the averages were statistically correct, and JD5 proved everybody wrong including myself on his transformation in his 4th year.
burrow was way better than his stats in 2018. if he had brady in 2018 as well he woulda lit it up similar to 2019.
Posted on 10/27/24 at 7:05 pm to WaterLink
All the evidence indicated that those were the correct conclusions.
Posted on 10/27/24 at 7:07 pm to Mohican
They had their chances.
Posted on 10/27/24 at 7:08 pm to tigerbait3488
Which games have you been watching?
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