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Posted on 1/28/16 at 1:00 pm to tke857
Because lineman were smaller and much quicker then. When the NCAA eliminated the wide side of the field lineman did not need as much speed. Obviously athletes have also simply become bigger and faster. In the early 70's Notre Dame's lineman were typically 240 and above and were considered to be huge.
Posted on 1/28/16 at 1:30 pm to tke857
Miles was listed as 6'1", and 225 pounds on the 1975 published roster.
The heaviest Michigan player on that team was Offensive Tackle Bill Dufek, listed as 6'4", 255. There were only a handful in the 230 and 240 pound ranges. Other DTs, OTs and OGs on that team were an average of about 225 to 230 pounds. Their centers ranged from 210 (wow) to 227 - or roughly a WR size today.
For example, it did not become routine for LSU to field multiple linemen at over 300 pounds until the 1990s. Typically, 300 pounders were viewed about like 7' basketball players then - around, but not numerous.
The heaviest Michigan player on that team was Offensive Tackle Bill Dufek, listed as 6'4", 255. There were only a handful in the 230 and 240 pound ranges. Other DTs, OTs and OGs on that team were an average of about 225 to 230 pounds. Their centers ranged from 210 (wow) to 227 - or roughly a WR size today.
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For example, it did not become routine for LSU to field multiple linemen at over 300 pounds until the 1990s. Typically, 300 pounders were viewed about like 7' basketball players then - around, but not numerous.
Posted on 1/28/16 at 1:39 pm to CaliTigerForLife
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Definitely not the reason.
This well respected journal seems to think it is.
Scientific American
Posted on 1/28/16 at 1:43 pm to tke857
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Yeah...let's get to the real issue here.
Will someone inside the AD's office PLEASE let our guys know that if they are attempting to throw up an "L" for LSU, then they can ONLY do that with THEIR right hand???
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Posted on 1/28/16 at 1:52 pm to LSU GrandDad
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that being said, in my day OL were in the 250 pound range but were very quick.
That indeed was the norm prior to the 80's.
LSU had an AA defensive tackle in the early 70's by the name of Ronnie Estay. He was just over 6' and generally played in the 230-240 pound range.
I think I read somewhere that Les played at 235 lbs. Lots of interior linemen in that range at big-time schools during those days.
Posted on 1/28/16 at 2:19 pm to LSU GrandDad
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the human body is getting smaller and will continue to do so. their reasoning is evolution based and the premise that humans don't use their bodies as much as their brains anymore.
That's a nice theory, but it's not a fact. Humans did not start using their minds more than their bodies until the industrial revolution. And that is too recent to have had any discernible effect upon evolution.
Posted on 1/28/16 at 2:32 pm to Tarpon08
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Different times bro. Same reason why the 1962 Green Bay Packers would lose 62-0 to the 2016 Tennessee Titans and wouldn't gain 50 yards of offense.
I hate to agree with this but I must.
Today's NFL player is so much bigger, faster, and stronger than their counterparts of 50 years ago, it's not even funny.
Posted on 1/28/16 at 2:33 pm to LSU GrandDad
Maybe most people do not exercise that much compared to the past but elite athletes have generally exercised all of their life. The body fat percentage of active professional athletes and most college athletes is very low compared to the general population. There is a subset of humans that are just getting bigger and taller with time.
Posted on 1/28/16 at 3:20 pm to tke857
My uncle was an offensive lineman at LSU in 1947, when Y.A. Tittle was QB. My uncle was 5'8", 203 lbs.
Posted on 1/28/16 at 3:27 pm to PhillyTiger90
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Athletes are much bigger than they were in his playing days
I have a friend who played linebacker at Alabama and for the Packers. He's like 6 feet tall and weighs about 190 now.
Posted on 1/28/16 at 4:45 pm to thunderbird1100
quote:Are we sure he actually "played"? He wasn't on the depth chart for his junior year and he was 3rd string in his senior year behind two sophomores.
It wasn't uncommon for offensive linemen to be 220-250 pounds back when he played.
Here's the 1974 Michigan roster:
LINK
The two left guards on the depth chart in 1974 were Metz (6'2", 235) and Armour (6'3", 230). The two ahead of him in 1975 were Donahue (6'3", 237) and Downing (6'4", 245).
At 6'1", 220 (a likely exaggeration) he probably never really was a D-1 lineman.
Posted on 1/28/16 at 5:12 pm to AlxTgr
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he overachieved.
Think he alluded to this during his Senior night rant after Ole Miss game in 2012.
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"I want you to know something. It would be said about my career at Michigan. It was a flop. I underplayed my own expectations. My head coach probably would have told me that you overplayed your physical limitations. My point to you is,there is no such thing as a flop that takes the field for our football team.
Posted on 1/28/16 at 5:12 pm to tke857
When I was a teenager back in the 70's Dan Dierdorf was the largest man in the NFL playing offensive tackle for the Saint Louis Cardinals. He was 6'3" and 285 lbs.
They just grow em bigger these days...
They just grow em bigger these days...
Posted on 1/28/16 at 5:22 pm to DeathvalleyU
Booger was 6'0" or 6'1" and 300+ when he was in playing shape which is damn good for a DT. It doesn't really apply for him, may want to try a different example.
Also, you guys have to realize how much nutrition and eating well while also working out has to do with it. When Booger stopped all that, of course he is going to lose mass and weight.
Les Miles = good example
Booger = bad example
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Also, you guys have to realize how much nutrition and eating well while also working out has to do with it. When Booger stopped all that, of course he is going to lose mass and weight.
Les Miles = good example
Booger = bad example
Just saying.
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Posted on 1/28/16 at 5:24 pm to tke857
He was the real Rudy of college football.
Posted on 1/28/16 at 6:51 pm to tke857
I am 54 years old and Miles is older. When I was in high school, if an O lineman was over 200 lbs. that was considered big.
Posted on 1/28/16 at 7:00 pm to MLCLyons
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This well respected journal seems to think it is.
Believe what you want. That article is a joke. The food quality today (processed, lots of chemicals, poisons, GMO's, steroids) is better than home grown foods just a few generations ago? You're an idiot.
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