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re: How much does Lane/Weis change the offense?

Posted on 8/10/26 at 9:54 am to
Posted by GeauxLSUBengalTigers
Member since Sep 2016
653 posts
Posted on 8/10/26 at 9:54 am to
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I think the pace will change a ton.
Considering LSU will be going from a huddling offense to a no huddle offense I'd say that is accurate.
Posted by GeauxLSUBengalTigers
Member since Sep 2016
653 posts
Posted on 8/10/26 at 9:56 am to
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My bet is that LSU will play pretty 'generic Kiffin' in the first half,
Sounds good on paper but Ole Miss will still be really talented. You can't just give them a half worth of a head start.
Posted by TexasTiger_08
Texas
Member since Dec 2021
1489 posts
Posted on 8/10/26 at 10:01 am to
This isn't CFB 27
Posted by Salviati
Member since Apr 2006
7940 posts
Posted on 8/10/26 at 10:13 am to
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Curious what coaches do when changing jobs?

DUI Pete has to know every play he’s ran/has a playbook so I would assume it’s a new set of plays?
There are at least five reasons why knowing last year's playbook is not dispositive of success this year.

First, knowing every play an offense runs doesn't mean you can stop that offense. See Oklahoma wishbone.

Second, it's not the plays; it's the tendencies. Tendencies can be self-scouted and altered.

Third, Kiffin's offense has never been stagnant. It has always evolved.

Fourth, there are ALWAYS new plays to add and tweaks to be made. Last year's playbook is never the same as this year's playbook.

Fifth, a little knowledge is dangerous. The defensive read that worked for the defense before may be the read that wrecks the defense now.
Posted by TheDeathValley
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2010
20762 posts
Posted on 8/10/26 at 10:13 am to
I think to back to 2019 when Brent Venables said he knew exactly what LSU was going to run, and that he couldn't only attempt to slow it down, not stop it.

Posted by Scoob
Near Exxon
Member since Jun 2009
23897 posts
Posted on 8/10/26 at 10:22 am to
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Sounds good on paper but Ole Miss will still be really talented. You can't just give them a half worth of a head start.
Nah, I said 'generic Kiffin' for the first half; meaning I think we're still going to play well.
1st half will be competitive.

I just think Kiffin has heard enough trash talking that he's going to go into overdrive, to prove a point
Posted by mpwilging
Longboat Key, Florida
Member since Jan 2011
9868 posts
Posted on 8/10/26 at 10:40 am to
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and lane has said just recently, their "concept" is driven by the team they're playing. they'll run it on weaker run defensive teams, and exploit teams passing that are weaker there. he said its an always revolving concept based on opponent, not their own identity.
Winning in every sport is based upon attacking the weak points identified by coaches and players. All teams, no matter how good, have areas that can be exploited
Posted by Tigerfan14
Member since Jun 2014
1880 posts
Posted on 8/10/26 at 11:15 am to
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My bet is that LSU will play pretty 'generic Kiffin' in the first half, so Golding won't be able to make any halftime adjustments. Then come out in the second half with the real gameplan, and see if Pete can figure things out on the fly. And I'm guessing he won't be able to.


No team will plan like this.

The playbooks don’t matter because they add and subtract stuff from it throughout the season. They change verbiage, signs etc every single game because teams start to figure it out if not. At this point, your starting QB could be playing your rival next season, so it’s obviously something that isn’t completely unique with people being very familiar with their competitions playbook. You also have analyst for decades that are at a new place every year and sitting there in all meetings and game planning. Those guys could easily have the same knowledge of the coaches system as anyone.
Posted by Pilot Tiger
North Carolina
Member since Nov 2005
74070 posts
Posted on 8/10/26 at 11:28 am to
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Pete will recognize formations but that’s about it. Completely different group of guys, he won’t have any inside information on how they are calling it other than the game film that every coach has always has access to


And Lane knows exactly what Pete is doing when he sees his defense go out.

And he's in his QB's ear the entire time telling him exactly what his reads are presnap.

I don't think people are really in tune with just how much of a benefit it is to have the helmet comms with kiffin directing things presnap. It's a massive advantage
Posted by TigerMonkey7
Member since Jul 2021
4983 posts
Posted on 8/10/26 at 1:25 pm to
The coordinator they hired from ECU has only ever run kiffin’s offense
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
79808 posts
Posted on 8/10/26 at 3:02 pm to
I think he would just change his signals to the players on the field.

Obviously teams have tape, so the goal is to always give teams different looks presnap than you did the weak before.
This post was edited on 8/10/26 at 3:04 pm
Posted by Chardee MacDennis
Pennsylvania
Member since Jan 2024
424 posts
Posted on 8/10/26 at 10:24 pm to
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DUI Pete has to know every play he’s ran/has a playbook


Just because he knows the alphabet, doesn't mean he can read Shakespeare
Posted by LSUDad
Still on the move
Member since May 2004
62903 posts
Posted on 8/11/26 at 12:22 pm to
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Curious what coaches do when changing jobs?



Within the Coaching profession, depends on when a Coach loses his job. Now, you can be hired as an Analyst, allowing you to get on with another college.

Years ago, when a college coaches get fired from a job, they attend the coaches convention. I tell folks all the time, football coaches are a tight fraternity. One month you are trying to sign the same player for your respective schools. The next season, you maybe coaching on the same team. Never burn bridges.

Some schools will stop pay, some will continue to pay. So many now have agents representing.

Back in the early 90’s a friend got fired as an assistant. The A/D asked him to continue recruiting for the school, until the new coach would interview, a chance at getting hired. Some new HC’s clean house. That AD continued to pay my friend even after he got a job, for a full year.

It’s fun to sit down with coaches and hear stories, a former DC at LSU, his brother knew stories and where the bodies were buried.

A few I know, might lose a college job, let out a the word, get on with a high school job. In Texas once vested, you have a good retirement. An easy way to fall back.
Posted by Strannix
C.S.A.
Member since Dec 2012
54169 posts
Posted on 8/11/26 at 1:05 pm to
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I would assume it’s a new set of plays?


O was hired specifically for access to the binder and the keys to "dat Joe Brady offense" baw
Posted by king47
Member since Aug 2020
2252 posts
Posted on 8/11/26 at 1:22 pm to
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Lane also knows exactly how to exploit DUI Pete’s defense and OM is still going to try and replicate Kiffin's exact offense. LSU will win in Oxford.



Love your confidence and hope you're right. But that will be one of the most toxic environments in college football history. Anything can happen in that setting. Plus they are a talented football team. After this season though, they drop back down to reality.
Posted by Purple N Gold Savage
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2018
113 posts
Posted on 8/11/26 at 1:31 pm to
Well we're going from head scratching play calling to elite level offensive play calling so i'm gonna say immensely!
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