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re: Hopefully Dave Aranda was watching Sunday Night Football
Posted on 12/17/18 at 2:01 pm to dukke v
Posted on 12/17/18 at 2:01 pm to dukke v
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Would you please just admit that you want O to fail....So we can get on with our lives.............
Tell us more about how UCF is going to beat LSU, peej.
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Posted on 12/17/18 at 2:02 pm to Topwater Trout
this year maybe
Miss st had the beat defense in the country
Florida’s offense scored
13
16
And 20
It’s not an insane difference but I dont Think amiss state is blaming their Defense for giving up a TD and not going to overtime 6-3 lead at halftime
Miss st had the beat defense in the country
Florida’s offense scored
13
16
And 20
It’s not an insane difference but I dont Think amiss state is blaming their Defense for giving up a TD and not going to overtime 6-3 lead at halftime
Posted on 12/17/18 at 2:04 pm to Topwater Trout
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if the defense performed to the level we paid the DC we would've won 11 games this year
Well, usually you have a head coach who takes care of at least one side of the ball. We have a head coach who’s best knows for taking care of a 6 pack of Red Bull and ripping his shirt off.
Posted on 12/17/18 at 2:06 pm to TrevRollings29
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TrevRollings29
Excellent post.
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It isn't much to ask that O be held to the same standards Les Miles was, and the only thing ticking anyone off is that he isn't.
I agree 100%. When o was named the interim head coach, I wasn't thrilled with the thought of him being named the head coach when the time came to hire someone full time. After the first month or so, and as well as the team was playing, I though maybe he could do a good job.
When the 2016 Florida game around, and everything that went on before and during that game, I realized that o was not the man to lead LSU going forward.
And like you've already said, one of the most aggravating things about o being the head, in my opinion, is the fact that there are a large group of fans that do not and will not, hold o and his program to the same standards that they held Miles and his program to.
Posted on 12/17/18 at 2:07 pm to Topwater Trout
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yeh but many head coaches make the call of who is playing a
Yeah but most teams don’t have a shrimp boat captain for head coach
Posted on 12/17/18 at 2:09 pm to Topwater Trout
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nope but i trust my source...he said it while drinking at the U club
Jesus fricking Christ.... you get your “info” from a damn drunk. Well that explains A LOT!
This post was edited on 12/17/18 at 2:17 pm
Posted on 12/17/18 at 2:15 pm to Topwater Trout
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The offense is no where near as talented as the defense and doesn't have the highest paid OC in the country
Maybe not but still more talented than Vandy.
And you’re right, we don’t have the highest paid OC. Because he’s not worth what we are paying him now.
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did you see my giving them kudos?
No but you have not been nearly as critical of them as you have been Aranda. You were given your orders to only engage negative talk about Aranda and you’ve done that. Congrats. How much did you make?
Posted on 12/17/18 at 2:16 pm to Topwater Trout
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dude you sound gay...you love talking about jizz, dick, and beating off. Get help man
I just call it like I see it and all I e seen from you is a nonstop Orgeron suckoff.
Posted on 12/17/18 at 2:19 pm to AshLSU
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Jesus fricking christ....you get your "imfo" from a damn drunk.
Was it Foster Brooks? I bet it was Foster Brooks.
Foster Brooks (May 11, 1912 – December 20, 2001) was an American actor and comedian most famous for his portrayal of a lovable drunk in nightclub performances and television programs.
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Well that explains A LOT!
Posted on 12/17/18 at 2:21 pm to earl keese
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Was it Foster Brooks? I bet it was Foster Brooks. Foster Brooks (May 11, 1912 – December 20, 2001) was an American actor and comedian most famous for his portrayal of a lovable drunk in nightclub performances and television programs.
Lol.
Seriously... mother fricker is up in here talking about “Otis Cambell said Aranda sucks”... like we are going to buy that.
Posted on 12/17/18 at 2:22 pm to Mo Jeaux
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Tell us more about how UCF is going to beat LSU, peej
Really...... There is a reason that I feel this..... Its about football..........
But YOU want O to fail..........
Posted on 12/17/18 at 2:23 pm to AshLSU
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Orgeron suckoff.
more gay shite
Posted on 12/17/18 at 2:25 pm to dukke v
Everyone wants O to succeed
The O “Haters” just don’t think he ever will.
Realistically my biggest issue is that too much of his failure or success is out of his hands, and delegates to others.
Outside of pep talks idk what he does on gamedays.
The O “Haters” just don’t think he ever will.
Realistically my biggest issue is that too much of his failure or success is out of his hands, and delegates to others.
Outside of pep talks idk what he does on gamedays.
Posted on 12/17/18 at 2:26 pm to Topwater Trout
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more gay shite
Well stop doing it
Posted on 12/17/18 at 2:29 pm to Whataburger
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Sunshine pumpers to the rescue
damn you're stupid. I said Arnada's as well as Philly's defense on the respective final plays were crap.
work your narrative though dog
Posted on 12/17/18 at 2:55 pm to Topwater Trout
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yeh but many head coaches make the call of who is playing and i think most fans would agree DE gave us a better chance to win last year. That is the state of the game you have to win now.
So in response to this I'll ask, what was more important for the long term goals of LSU football, winning last year or preparing Brennan for the future?
I think there was (and possibly remains) a lack of congruence in regards to our short term and long term goals. When that happens, the decision makers will always choose the short term objectives at the expense of the long term goals.
If you used last year as a rebuilding year, might as well rebuild all the way. People that like to defend the head football coach want to say that there was no talent left in the cupboard, so that seems like perfect cover to play Brennan and get him up to speed. But when it comes to QB, you say the goal is to win as many games as possible.
So what was the goal, trying to make a run at the conference championship or rebuilding with an eye towards the future? You really cannot do both, at least not well.
Posted on 12/17/18 at 3:42 pm to Goldrush25
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what was more important for the long term goals of LSU football, winning last year or preparing Brennan for the future?
Idk...if we went 4-8 that would hurt recruiting right? there is no way to tell
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the decision makers will always choose the short term objectives at the expense of the long term goals.
definitely
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So what was the goal, trying to make a run at the conference championship or rebuilding with an eye towards the future?
winning now is always the goal at LSU and other top 10-15 programs. Brennan couldn't beat out Burrow this year. Hell maybe we still aren't capable of developing qbs? I do know he would get killed at the weight he is with the line we have
Posted on 12/17/18 at 3:42 pm to Goldrush25
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If you used last year as a rebuilding year, might as well rebuild all the way. People that like to defend the head football coach want to say that there was no talent left in the cupboard, so that seems like perfect cover to play Brennan and get him up to speed. But when it comes to QB, you say the goal is to win as many games as possible.
I don't think rebuild is the right description. We had offensive deficiencies this year with the number of new starters at critical positions and a lack of elite talent at RB for the 1st time in years. Burrow arriving in the summer and being a new starter with new teammates and a new OC didn't help with execution. Losing Ingram and having only 2 returning OL starters hurt. Auburn had the same issue with their OL and look at the difference in their O from 2017 to 2018 and that's returning Stidham.
Lastly SE did not know how to mitigate our deficiencies. Slow developing plays, deep drops, play selection and poor cohesiveness with the gameplan (no identity) all made the issues worse. Going conservative vs Bama played directly into their hands. Red zone offense was bad in 2017 and was the same or worse except we had a competent kicker.
2019 the experience and talent on O will improve, but playcalling and scheme needs to as well or we will squander what will be a one of our better offensive rosters. 2019 really is a "show me" year.
Posted on 12/17/18 at 3:46 pm to The Boat
Hey, do I think DA could blitz a little more on 3rd downs, yes but I'm not gonna try to insinuate he lost or has lost games for LSU. He's the best coach on that staff and it ain't even close. I think some of his conservative calls are to protect some of the back end defenders (KV, TA, EP and JB).
Posted on 12/17/18 at 3:52 pm to Topwater Trout
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Idk...if we went 4-8 that would hurt recruiting right? there is no way to tell
That'd be almost impossible with the talent we had in 2017.
There was no way the head football coach was getting fired in 2017. If the cupboard was so bare then what's the point in trying for a short term goal? What was the pressure to "win now?" Focus on the long term goal to increase the likelihood of success.
Playing Etling did nothing for Brennan's development. If we were in position to actually win the conference then playing Etling makes a ton of sense.
But people want to play both sides of the argument in saying the goal is to win as much as possible as well as rebuilding because of the depleted state in which the team was left.
There's a process in agriculture called fallowing your fields. Farmers allow their fields to remain unsown so that the nutrients in the soil can replenish. This way, the soil's ability to support crop growth is restored.
To have the best chance at long term success, sometimes you have to have a period where you promote the growth of your younger resources.
This post was edited on 12/17/18 at 3:58 pm
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