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re: Hopefully Dave Aranda was watching Sunday Night Football
Posted on 12/17/18 at 4:18 pm to Goldrush25
Posted on 12/17/18 at 4:18 pm to Goldrush25
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What was the pressure to "win now?"
holy shite are you really saying this? all yall have said is there was no rebuild, O said we were ready to compete...come on I know what you are doing. Brennan wasn't ready and playing him would have been a mistake. He couldn't win the job this year.
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Posted on 12/17/18 at 4:20 pm to dukke v
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Really...... There is a reason that I feel this..... Its about football..........
But YOU want O to fail......
Are YOU sure that's IT? Maybe it's the BUDWEISER talking.
Posted on 12/17/18 at 4:20 pm to Goldrush25
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That'd be almost impossible with the talent we had in 2017.
yall have a very short memory...at one point the cry was we won't even win a game in the sec
Posted on 12/17/18 at 4:26 pm to Topwater Trout
People arguing just to be arguing... Aranda defense gave up over a 120 points in our 3 losses this year... of course he’s overpaid... with the talent we got basically any “ANY” DC would produce the same results
Posted on 12/17/18 at 4:33 pm to Topwater Trout
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all yall have said is there was no rebuild, O said we were ready to compete
But then you guys said that Miles left the team in a state of disrepair.
I'm just trying to keep up with what the guys that like to defend the head football coach are saying at any given moment.
If we accept the premise that the team was depleted, why not prepare for the future and play Brennan more than we did? And if the team was in a win-now mode, then don't we have to put the results from that year in that context?
Posted on 12/17/18 at 4:50 pm to Goldrush25
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Playing Etling did nothing for Brennan's development. If we were in position to actually win the conference then playing Etling makes a ton of sense.
But people want to play both sides of the argument in saying the goal is to win as much as possible as well as rebuilding because of the depleted state in which the team was left.
The team really wasnt depleted.
This is why half the fanbase, if not more is so sick of the BS already.
From day 1, narratives have been created that essentially alleviate Ed Orgeron from having to meet the expectations of LSU football.
Etling was chosen by Ed, not Canada, because the optics of a loss with Danny at QB were much better than losing with a true freshman playing and last years starter on the bench. That's how these decisions seem to be made.
Burrow will start next year no matter how much weight brennan gains or any other improvement, because of the optics.
Anything and everything but Steve Ensminger will continue to be the reason the offense fails to produce. It has to be, because Ed already created the narrative that Canada was the issue and his choice is Ensminger.
What actually shocked me was the subtle shots at Aranda this season. He said he was disappointed in the defense after Miami game for the late scores and stuck with that narrative any game the offense stalled in the second half. That's when my eyes were opened.
Arandas continued success on defense and associate HC title have made him a threat.
He gets promoted to associate HC and now you have people starting threads like this thread here.
Everything I just said might be completely wrong as I dont have the insider info, but it's just how I feel. Everyone from the AD down is tied to this. Alleva is stuck to his HC hire. O is stuck to his OC hire. The media isnt really being as critical of E as they should be, objectively. When one of them are critical, they are attacked and labelled as a nega tiger by their own people.
I hope we do win the west next year and make a run to the playoffs for the first time in the playoff era, because if a coaching change ends up being needed, it will be far more difficult to make happen than the previous one, and that's saying something.
Posted on 12/17/18 at 5:04 pm to Goldrush25
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I'm just trying to keep up with what the guys that like to defend the head football coach are saying at any given moment.
Good luck.
Posted on 12/17/18 at 5:29 pm to Topwater Trout
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Tied for last in defensive td's for the year...awesome!
That's just intellectually dishonest. It begs the question of whether you even watched the games.
The defense gave the offense the ball inside the 5 on two occasions and inside the 25 a few others.
Posted on 12/17/18 at 5:42 pm to lepdagod
“Aranda defense gave up over 120 points in our 3 losses”.
Tell me you are not really going there. lol
Tell me you are not really going there. lol
Posted on 12/17/18 at 7:06 pm to Lonnie4LSU
I’m wrong about some???
Posted on 12/17/18 at 7:14 pm to lepdagod
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I'm wrong about some???
Don't you think a 7 OT game played a little bit of a role in the defense giving up 130 points in the 3 losses?
Posted on 12/17/18 at 7:36 pm to Spec1
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But he is the only things keeping Captain Shrimp Boat Captain employed
Posted on 12/17/18 at 8:02 pm to TrevRollings29
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Everything I just said might be completely wrong
You think?
Posted on 12/17/18 at 8:11 pm to bencoleman
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You think?
lol no, I'm certain that i'm correct.
Posted on 12/17/18 at 8:40 pm to TrevRollings29
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lol no, I'm certain that i'm correct
You made the entire scenario up in your head. You can't feel that you've been objective at all. Why do you feel that this is ok? It's not based in truth at all. It's all shite that you because of your anti O bias have created.
It's not ok to do this but there are plenty of posters suffering from the same malady that will cheer you on. It doesn't make it right. If 50 people believe something stupid it's still something stupid.
Coach O is about to close on a great recruiting class but instead of being hyped about it you're here making up stories about the man. It's a crying assed shame.
Posted on 12/17/18 at 8:52 pm to bencoleman
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bencoleman
Damn. Talk about the ramblings of a drunk. Or someone who has mental problems.
Or both.
Posted on 12/17/18 at 9:01 pm to earl keese
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earl keese
So do you have a comment about the guy making up shite up about the coach or the great recruiting class or is all you've got are personal attacks?
Let me guess. Personal attacks. It's all you've got.
Posted on 12/17/18 at 9:12 pm to earl keese
Yeah... so... still doesn’t excuse Aranda’s defense though...
Posted on 12/17/18 at 9:16 pm to bencoleman
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So do you have a comment about the guy making up shite about the coach
What ind of shite is he making up? Some of what he said was his opinion. Doesn't he have a right to voice his opinion?
Oh that's right, in your eyes, a person only has the right to voice an opinion if he's gonna kiss o's arse in the process.
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or the great recruiting class.
Looks good so far. Let's wait until papers are signed before we suck o off for this class though. Okay?
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or is all you got are personal attacks?
Let me guess. Personal attacks. It's all you've got.
It's the exact same thing you did to me in a thread back on the 12th. Why is it that it's ok for you to do something or voice an opinion, but it's not ok for others to do the same thing?
That's really odd ben.
Posted on 12/17/18 at 9:21 pm to bencoleman
bencoleman
No, TrevRollings29 made well-thought, concise and easily documented points. Do you have a factual rebuttal? No just a bunch of ranting that proves his point.
Coach O: “I remember my statement — ‘I’m going to go out and find the best offensive coordinator in the country.’ And I did,” Orgeron said of last year’s hire of Matt Canada. “I did all I could to do all the things I promised the fans, while all the while I had Steve Ensminger.
“Things didn’t work out. And then I said, ‘I know the best coordinator for LSU is Steve Ensminger.’ I knew that down in my heart.”
“I totally trust Steve and he totally trusts me,” Orgeron said, shedding light onto why Canada is no longer in the building without saying it outright. “Everyone’s pulling on the same page. One team, one heartbeat.”
Hiring a coach who hasn’t been a full-time offensive coordinator in the last 20 years will end up defining his success or failure.
Orgeron Finds a New Truth and His Future Hinges On It
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You made the entire scenario up in your head. You can't feel that you've been objective at all. Why do you feel that this is ok? It's not based in truth at all. It's all shite that you because of your anti O bias have created.
No, TrevRollings29 made well-thought, concise and easily documented points. Do you have a factual rebuttal? No just a bunch of ranting that proves his point.
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Anything and everything but Steve Ensminger will continue to be the reason the offense fails to produce. It has to be, because Ed already created the narrative that Canada was the issue and his choice is Ensminger.
Coach O: “I remember my statement — ‘I’m going to go out and find the best offensive coordinator in the country.’ And I did,” Orgeron said of last year’s hire of Matt Canada. “I did all I could to do all the things I promised the fans, while all the while I had Steve Ensminger.
“Things didn’t work out. And then I said, ‘I know the best coordinator for LSU is Steve Ensminger.’ I knew that down in my heart.”
“I totally trust Steve and he totally trusts me,” Orgeron said, shedding light onto why Canada is no longer in the building without saying it outright. “Everyone’s pulling on the same page. One team, one heartbeat.”
Hiring a coach who hasn’t been a full-time offensive coordinator in the last 20 years will end up defining his success or failure.
Orgeron Finds a New Truth and His Future Hinges On It
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