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re: Hopefully Dave Aranda was watching Sunday Night Football

Posted on 12/17/18 at 12:52 pm to
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 12/17/18 at 12:52 pm to
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So I don't know why any tiger fan is shocked that the offense is still the weakest unit


Don't know if shocked is the word.

The head football coach promised results on the offensive side of the ball and results have declined since that promise.

I'm certain he has the football team's best interests at heart but also am very concerned with the progress being made on that side of the ball. The offensive performance may be having a negative effect on the defense.
Posted by Topwater Trout
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Posted on 12/17/18 at 12:54 pm to
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Or dominant like scoring a TD tongues the game in the first place?


Tied for last in defensive td's for the year...awesome!

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Or getting a 3 and out


did you watch the first half? not prepared? out coached? what was the problem in the first half?

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But yeah frick Aranda and the defense


put words in my mouth for expecting more i bet Aranda is man enough to say we have to get better and shouldn't allow 80+ yd td score in the last possession...or do you think he makes excuses?
Posted by Tiger Tracker
Austin,TX
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 12/17/18 at 12:57 pm to
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but unlike you I expect the strength of our team to make plays when the game is on the line


Ok so let's say you're right and the ATM loss is on the defense. What does that prove in your mind?
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
79436 posts
Posted on 12/17/18 at 12:58 pm to
Sorry but have you not watched football the last decade?

We lean on the Defense year after year after year and whenever it’s not enough we lose.

How many times have we really lost a shootout?

Maybe 2 times in the last 10 seasons?
Posted by Topwater Trout
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Posted on 12/17/18 at 12:59 pm to
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The entire situation surrounding Matt Canada


what about Canada stating he is going to run Etling hoping he gets hurt so he can play Brennan?
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 12/17/18 at 1:01 pm to
You can argue and pretend like your reasonable all you want, I am Sure Aranda wouldn’t make an excuse because he’s a profession

But you have no problem in posting shite like we’re “last” in defensive YDs when that means we’re tied with 94 other teams.

Now ask Aranda if he though his defense won the game when they stopped A&M on 4th and 5? What do you think he’ll say?
This post was edited on 12/17/18 at 1:03 pm
Posted by Topwater Trout
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Posted on 12/17/18 at 1:03 pm to
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Ok so let's say you're right and the ATM loss is on the defense. What does that prove in your mind?


Nothing. The offense sucks and I think the defense under performed for the season. As a fan I still want to win the 2 games I thought we should win but lost. I want our defense to be more aggressive...i don't like bend but don't break style. I think we have better athletes than to play that way. Hell I see people on here wanting a 4-3 again so why don't yall go give those people hell for questioning Dave Aranda?
Posted by Whataburger
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Posted on 12/17/18 at 1:05 pm to
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jdrn21


Sunshine pumpers to the rescue.
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
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Posted on 12/17/18 at 1:06 pm to
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Now ask Aranda if he though his defense won the game when they stopped A&M on 4th and 5? What do you think he’ll say?


I am sure he will say the game is 60 minutes long

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But you have no problem in posting shite like we’re “last” in defensive YDs when that means we’re tied with 94 other teams.


yall keep acting like the defense scoring is the most amazing thing ever. Hell they made a great play thats awesome but as terrible as our offense was they did not put the defense in bad position field postion wise with turnovers, compared to most teams. Our defense rarely had to defend short fields...that is going to help the scoring defense
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
79436 posts
Posted on 12/17/18 at 1:07 pm to
You’re saying “on the season”

But really outside 1 game our defense was amazing.

We game up 16.09 point going into the A&M game.

And that’s without an elite pass rusher all season.

Posted by Whataburger
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Posted on 12/17/18 at 1:08 pm to
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I'm certain he has the football team's best interests at heart


I'm certain he has his own best interests at heart...$$$$
Posted by Topwater Trout
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Posted on 12/17/18 at 1:08 pm to
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The offensive performance may be having a negative effect on the defense.


just as it did in many years CLM was coach
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
79436 posts
Posted on 12/17/18 at 1:10 pm to
What’s your point?

We expected the coaching change to lead to a better offense.

You seem to be expecting it to change the fact that you can’t win every game in defense alone.
Posted by Spec1
Lost but making good time
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 12/17/18 at 1:11 pm to
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I love Aranda but he isn't above criticism.


But he is the only things keeping Captain Shrimp Boat Captain employed!
Posted by Topwater Trout
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Posted on 12/17/18 at 1:13 pm to
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But really outside 1 game our defense was amazing.


I would say outside of 2 games...A&M being the first half and last drive and UF we made their QB look good while plenty of lesser defenses made UF look bad
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
63786 posts
Posted on 12/17/18 at 1:13 pm to
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what about Canada stating he is going to run Etling hoping he gets hurt so he can play Brennan?


Is this true? Do you have a cite?
Posted by TrevRollings29
Orlando
Member since Dec 2018
969 posts
Posted on 12/17/18 at 1:14 pm to
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what about Canada stating he is going to run Etling hoping he gets hurt so he can play Brennan?


Terrible thing for him to say, however, it should have never come to this. If Canada thought his offense would be better operated with Brennan, then Brennan should have played.

That's another complaint that I have. Is Burrow really better than Brennan? We will never know. I think that our QBs all looked terrible in the Spring because of the scheme. I think that Burrow brought knowledge more than anything else to the table and it also helped change the story line.

Instead of the narrative that I believe, which is that E's offense was just terrible when first implemented, a narrative that we didn't have a QB was created. From that moment, Oregeron had no choice but to start Burrow. Now, instead of the offensive scheme taking a step back under O, we have the narrative that the QB talent went up thanks to his last second acquisition of Burrow.

This competition allegedly came down to the wire. It's no secret that Brennan has the best arm on the team since Jamarcus. I'm not going to pretend to know more than the coaches, but I do believe that politics has become more prevalent in the O regime than they EVER were in his predecessors.
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33963 posts
Posted on 12/17/18 at 1:15 pm to
Right, so we seem to be in agreement.

When we're triaging the issues that this football team is dealing with, no reasonable person should be putting the state of the defense ahead of the state of the offense. The offense is hemorrhaging, yet you're saying these flesh wounds on defense are just as important.

We get this offense performing to a respectable level, some of the issues with this defense will resolve, wouldn't you agree?

I don't know how responsible the defense is for the state of the offensive side of the ball. This thread seem to be trying to make that case but it's a poor case being made.
This post was edited on 12/17/18 at 1:17 pm
Posted by Fightin Okra
Member since Nov 2016
6108 posts
Posted on 12/17/18 at 1:25 pm to
Rather OC watch to learn how to throw a screen
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
79436 posts
Posted on 12/17/18 at 1:27 pm to
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yall keep acting like the defense scoring is the most amazing thing ever. Hell they made a great play thats awesome but as terrible as our offense was they did not put the defense in bad position field postion wise with turnovers, compared to most teams. Our defense rarely had to defend short fields...that is going to help the scoring defense


1. Out defense gave out offense the ball in great position all season. 1/3 our TDs started on their side of the field.

2. Can you backmup your claim?

6 TDS in the A&M game came inside our 30.
And yeah none of them are thenoffenses fault but outside the A&M game the defense was elite.
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