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re: Here is the NCAA rule and interpretation on the 3-second spike rule...Refs got it right

Posted on 11/27/18 at 10:47 am to
Posted by labamafan
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Posted on 11/27/18 at 10:47 am to
Terry McCauly (so?) an NFL official for multiple Super Bowls and an LSU grad said that other than the PI which is aubjective they got all the other calls correct. It won’t be popular but it’s what he said this AM in BR radio.
Posted by Fat Bastard
coach, investor, gambler
Member since Mar 2009
72603 posts
Posted on 11/27/18 at 10:51 am to
Correct. TAMU got hosed by the clock operator. Dude went down with 6 seconds left!!!!! And they ran it down to 3???? Wtf? Shoulda been way more than 3 seconds on clock.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
84762 posts
Posted on 11/27/18 at 10:53 am to
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I've actually argued something. You've done nothing but insult me.


Well that's not true at all. I clearly pointed out to Chicken why he was misunderstanding the ruling on the first page.

You're obviously very upset. I know this was a tough loss for everyone, and you're clearly not handling the criticism of the staff very well, which is bleeding over to other topics. I'll leave you alone.
Posted by ChEgrad
Member since Nov 2012
3262 posts
Posted on 11/27/18 at 11:01 am to
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So we are all just going to ignore the receiver was out of bounds with 6 seconds left.


I could be wrong and I haven't rewatched it, but I think his knee hit in bounds prior to his elbow hitting out of bounds.
Posted by tigernchicago
Alabama
Member since Sep 2003
5075 posts
Posted on 11/27/18 at 11:12 am to
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Terry McCauly


It is amazing that the idiotic official that changed a call in an NFL gae after another play had been run, climbed out ffrom under a rock.

It is amazing that this disgraced individual would ever comment on football officiating is beyond incredible.
Posted by biscuitsngravy
Tejas, north America
Member since Jan 2011
3000 posts
Posted on 11/27/18 at 11:18 am to
honest question, and this was mentioned before, is the clock not stopped by the referee signaling an incomplete pass, thus why the clock ran to zero prior to ref signal?
Posted by bencoleman
RIP 7/19
Member since Feb 2009
37887 posts
Posted on 11/27/18 at 11:18 am to
quote:


Well that's not true at all. I clearly pointed out to Chicken why he was misunderstanding the ruling on the first page.

You're obviously very upset. I know this was a tough loss for everyone, and you're clearly not handling the criticism of the staff very well, which is bleeding over to other topics. I'll leave you alone


No you started this by insulting me and you've done nothing else but for pages. You couldn't help yourself because you're a giant douchebag.
Posted by Thorny
Montgomery, AL
Member since May 2008
1908 posts
Posted on 11/27/18 at 11:18 am to
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So we are all just going to ignore the receiver was out of bounds with 6 seconds left.


Are you absolutely sure his elbow was the first thing to touch? Because, if it was the knee, he wasn't out of bounds. That's what the call was--not out of bounds.

As for the 6 seconds, you have a point there. However, the refs aren't in the business of rechecking the time at the end of every play. That's why the interpretation points out that there is no assurance that you have time to execute a spike with only three seconds on the clock.

This isn't the situation like at Auburn in 2016. There, the question was whether LSU got the snap off in time.

The question then becomes, "Does the rule book allow a team to insist on getting an official review of the spike when the play started with 3 seconds on the clock?"

That's a reasonable question, and the scenario presented seems to say, "no".

I'm not sure I would say LSU got screwed, but I'm not sure I would say the officials followed the correct procedure either.

GEAUX TIGERS
Posted by DByrd2
Fredericksburg, VA
Member since Jun 2008
8962 posts
Posted on 11/27/18 at 11:21 am to
Doesn't matter when the ball hit the ground.

It matters when the whistle is blown, as that signals the end of the play and stoppage of time.
Posted by Thorny
Montgomery, AL
Member since May 2008
1908 posts
Posted on 11/27/18 at 11:24 am to
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they don't exist in football because of the massive expense of changing the huge scoreboards used in football stadiums.


Our high school stadium has the tenth of a second clocks.
aTm just spent $485,000,000 on Kyle Field renovations. I think they could have afforded it.

Posted by Open Your Eyes
Member since Nov 2012
9252 posts
Posted on 11/27/18 at 11:32 am to
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What does that have to do with whether you have time to spike it in a timely manner. What does the rule say about tenths of a second. If there's less than a second should a full second be added? What about 1/10th of one second? Do you round it up to a full second? Is it addressed in the rulebook? From the rule I read it is not and the game is over. There was 1/10th of one second showing on the clock that was flashed on the TV on the replay Saturday night. Do you round it up to one second? On replay the best they could do is 1/10th of a second. The game was over.


Shocking. Ben is all over this thread being a moron and lying again. This never happens.

Why do you feel the need to constantly lie anonymously on the Internet, Ben? Do you think it makes you cool?
Posted by Open Your Eyes
Member since Nov 2012
9252 posts
Posted on 11/27/18 at 11:34 am to
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Why don't you tell him that there's no need to start insults.




“But mommy he hit me first.”
Posted by Open Your Eyes
Member since Nov 2012
9252 posts
Posted on 11/27/18 at 11:38 am to
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So the time keepers reaction time isn't part of the game now??


It never had been.

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Bc I've never in my life seen a game put time back on a clock when the time keeper lets even 3 or more seconds off of it after a play is dead.


Time gets added or removed from a clock all the time. You want to see an end of game scenario, go rewatch the nebraska-Texas big 12 championship game from a few years ago.
Posted by RobbBobb
Matt Flynn, BCS MVP
Member since Feb 2007
27896 posts
Posted on 11/27/18 at 11:52 am to
You've gone and done it now

The Cheerios were counting on tenths of a second to beat Jimbo. Now they cant
Posted by redfishfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2015
4401 posts
Posted on 11/27/18 at 12:15 pm to
I just need somebody to explain to me how the ball in still in the center hands when the clock reads 1 second but 1 second was put back on that clock. Basically Texas A&M was allowed to run the only play in football history that took no time off the clock that wasn't an untimed down.
Posted by League Champs
Bayou Self
Member since Oct 2012
10340 posts
Posted on 11/27/18 at 2:20 pm to
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I just need somebody to explain to me how the ball in still in the center hands when the clock reads 1 second

uh, pretty simple. The clock you see on your TV, is never the official clock. Otherwise you would never hear the ref tell the clock operator to reset the game clock to XYZ time. The refs keep the clock, and it still had 3 seconds when the center snapped it.
Posted by Pauldean
Red Stick by way of Syracuse
Member since Oct 2011
2629 posts
Posted on 11/27/18 at 2:27 pm to
Ben Coleman all up in here thinking that because there is 0.00 on the clock the game is over. Like clock issues aren't reviewable?

I mean shite, the kick six game had a second added to the clock and it ended up changing the history of the Iron Bowl.

Posted by AshLSU
Member since Nov 2015
12868 posts
Posted on 11/27/18 at 2:48 pm to
Don’t give a shite about the “3 second spike”. It can be argued either way.

What I want to know is why this wasn’t a catch but 3 fingers on a ball is “possession”.


This post was edited on 11/27/18 at 2:53 pm
Posted by AshLSU
Member since Nov 2015
12868 posts
Posted on 11/27/18 at 2:52 pm to
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Time gets added or removed from a clock all the time. You want to see an end of game scenario, go rewatch the nebraska-Texas big 12 championship game from a few years ago.



Yes but not because “the time keeper didn’t stop the clock at the EXACT moment the ball was dead”. That is just considered part of the game. You can not review every time the ball is dead if the clockeeper stopped the clock at the exact moment the ball is dead. If they did that, the game would take eternity.
Posted by Mrwhodat
Member since Dec 2015
10296 posts
Posted on 11/27/18 at 3:02 pm to
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