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re: Here is the NCAA rule and interpretation on the 3-second spike rule...Refs got it right

Posted on 11/27/18 at 9:27 am to
Posted by bencoleman
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Posted on 11/27/18 at 9:27 am to
The rule is clear. The game was over and the time should never have been put back on the clock.
Posted by AlxTgr
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Posted on 11/27/18 at 9:27 am to
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Finally, the ref, after the review, said "After review, when the quarterback spiked the ball, there was one second on the clock." This tells me that they didn't even use the NCAA spike rule...more incompetence?

Where are you getting this? Nothing you've posted even suggests they did anything wrong.
Posted by theunknownknight
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Posted on 11/27/18 at 9:28 am to
Exactly. Once the game hit three seconds in that situation given the above interpretation there would just be a runoff.
Posted by Legion of Doom
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Posted on 11/27/18 at 9:28 am to
That’s why Alleva and Orgeron need to fly to Birmingham with a camera crew and demand to see Steve Shaw and Sankey and get clarification. As another poster said, we lost the game and that won’t change. But if they have to publicly admit that their referees suck maybe officiating will get better.
Posted by Choupique19
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Posted on 11/27/18 at 9:28 am to
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They actually should have had more than 3 seconds to start with had the refs been paying attention so this is all moot




The clock does not stop at the exact moment a player is down after gaining enough yards for a first down. If you've ever seen the mechanics of a referee, their first signal is to keep the clock running because the player is not out of bounds. Then they follow with a the signal to stop the clock because a first down was achieved. There is always an extra second or so run off after a first down is gained while not getting out of bounds.
Posted by Chicken
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Posted on 11/27/18 at 9:28 am to
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Again, this is not college basketball with tenths of seconds on the clock.
I think this is the issue. There needs to be tenths of seconds on the clock for this rule to make sense.

Posted by AlxTgr
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Posted on 11/27/18 at 9:29 am to
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The rule is clear. The game was over and the time should never have been put back on the clock.

no
Posted by bencoleman
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Posted on 11/27/18 at 9:30 am to
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The rule is clear. The game was over and the time should never have been put back on the clock.
no



You are wrong. Read the rule again please.
Posted by tenderfoot tigah
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Posted on 11/27/18 at 9:30 am to
This is only one of the 7 times the game should have ended. Heck there were in a severely illegal formation for the spike.
Posted by lovinLSU
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Posted on 11/27/18 at 9:31 am to
What I dont understand is how can you get to the line everyone is in legal formation, legally set, snap the ball, raise it way over your head, and spike it all in 3 seconds and still have one second on the clock to run another play...that’s pretty amazing in itself...
This post was edited on 11/27/18 at 9:33 am
Posted by bencoleman
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Posted on 11/27/18 at 9:31 am to
. The game clock shows 0:00. RULING: Time in the quarter has expired.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
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Posted on 11/27/18 at 9:32 am to
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quote:
Again, this is not college basketball with tenths of seconds on the clock.
I think this is the issue. There needs to be tenths of seconds on the clock for this rule to make sense.



The thing is, by the nature of each sport, football has never been seen as one that is as precisely timed as basketball. It's why I think it is stupid to look at one single instance where you should be able to discern a definite precise timing in it.
This post was edited on 11/27/18 at 9:33 am
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 11/27/18 at 9:33 am to
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Although there were 3 seconds on the game clock when the referee signaled it to start, there is no guarantee of enough time to run an additional play other than spiking the ball. The offense must execute the spike in a timely manner


Chicken this is the key part.

To say there is no guarantee that there is enough time means that there is a chance the team has to spike it

The last sentence. The offense must execute the spike in a timely manner means that they indeed have time to spike the ball if executed properly.

The rule itself you posted is even clearer. 3 or more seconds is enough time to execute a spike if done timely. Any less and you do not have time to spike & run another play.

What am I missing
Posted by theunknownknight
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Posted on 11/27/18 at 9:34 am to



Official rule

quote:

A player is out of bounds if any body part is touching a sideline, end line, or anything, other than another player or a game official, that is on or beyond a sideline or end line.


Game. Blouses.
This post was edited on 11/27/18 at 9:35 am
Posted by slackster
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Posted on 11/27/18 at 9:36 am to
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Right, they're saying don't piss around while trying to spike it


Additionally, they wouldn't explain the ruling with "although there were 3 seconds on the game clock when the referee signaled it to start" unless they were addressing the fact that you can spike it and stop it within 3 seconds, but there is no guarantee it will be allowed.
Posted by bencoleman
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Posted on 11/27/18 at 9:36 am to
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What am I missing


The part where it says if the game clock says zero the game is over. You didn't actually have time to spike it. You should've run a play.
Posted by LSUsmartass
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Posted on 11/27/18 at 9:36 am to
I think people are being thrown off by the interpretation of what not to do when spiking it with 3 seconds left
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 11/27/18 at 9:37 am to
I’ll havr to recheck the tape but I thought there was :01 after the spike
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 11/27/18 at 9:38 am to
So we are all just going to ignore the receiver was out of bounds with 6 seconds left.
Posted by AlxTgr
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Posted on 11/27/18 at 9:39 am to
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The game clock shows 0:00. RULING: Time in the quarter has expired.

That did not happen.
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