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re: Guys settle down on McMahon, this was a rebuild Wade left us is shambles

Posted on 12/17/23 at 8:34 am to
Posted by Skillet
Member since Aug 2006
107726 posts
Posted on 12/17/23 at 8:34 am to
LSU basketball needs a new PMAC and a new coach. This sleepy arse, unexciting, losing style of play we have now in an outdated arena is a fan killer.

Not sure how long Kim will coach, but as of now, she’s the only coach with the kahunas to try and do something about the facilities.
Posted by mcspufftiger7
Member since Oct 2020
1890 posts
Posted on 12/17/23 at 9:01 am to
Wade wouldn’t have any better record without a PG. If cook is allowed to play the rest of the year this team will be very competitive. Whether that will turn into wins is the question but the TX game was winnable but the refs nipped that in the bud in a 2 minute span. Dean needs to start over Baker and Fountain over Reed. Wright will be able to concentrate on scoring with Cook running point now. He makes the entire team better.
Posted by mcspufftiger7
Member since Oct 2020
1890 posts
Posted on 12/17/23 at 9:08 am to
We were down by 19 at half. If McMahon is as bad a coach as everyone says we should have lost by 30 - 40 points. Yet we came back and were only down 9 with around 4 minutes left before the 4 fouls / technical and questionable jump ball killed the run. On the road aganst #19. Team played hard, ran multiple defenses and dominated offensive boards. But none of that is coaching? Let’s see what happens going forward with Cook at point. Definitely going to be a better team.
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278468 posts
Posted on 12/17/23 at 9:16 am to
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LSU bitched out and like a bunch of pussies fired Wade instead of letting the smoke settle….much like the number 2 team in the country did!!!




the fact that no one but McNese wanted to hire Wade proved LSU did the right thing.


Did they hire the wrong coach? maybe.

Doesn't change the fact Wade had to be fired
Posted by mcspufftiger7
Member since Oct 2020
1890 posts
Posted on 12/17/23 at 9:46 am to
I was a Wade fan. He was a good coach but not great. He was a great recruiter. But incessant non stop bashing of this coach and this team is way old. He gets 3 years period. If he’s still struggling after 3 years then there’s an argument to replace him. The idiots need to understand that. He ain’t going anywhere especially with the commitments he has for next year.
Posted by kingfish225
Member since Dec 2013
520 posts
Posted on 12/17/23 at 11:03 am to
Dammit, I swear to god we live in such a shite time where people will willfully ignore FACTS. The program is on probation - All of the Wade love is idiotic. He was a mediocre coach that never achieved the success he should have with the teams he had, hell of a recruiter but not a good coach.
Posted by OchoDedos
Republic of Texas
Member since Oct 2014
34111 posts
Posted on 12/17/23 at 11:12 am to
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Wade didn’t leave us… Scott dismissed him

For not just being a cheat, everyone cheats, but for being an idiot cheat in the process.
Posted by Old Man and a Porch
Member since Dec 2023
126 posts
Posted on 12/17/23 at 11:20 am to
Three years is just delaying the inevitable and making it tougher to recover from.

He is not the one.
Posted by mcmaniacinsaneasylum
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2023
1974 posts
Posted on 12/17/23 at 11:54 am to
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Wade wouldn’t have any better record without a PG.


Wade wasn't even the best xs and os coach, but he's proven to be a lot better than McMahon. This is blatantly false. Cook does nothing to help the fact that our perimeter defense is abysmal and doesn't help the fact that we suck at rebounding.

I think Cook is a very good player but I think even without him this team SHOULD have been a decently competitive SEC team. Not having a true PG wasn't our only problem, and a good enough coach would figure something out. Our ball handlers were not so bad as to not have any offense whatsoever. Even then, our offense isn't even that bad. As Alt26 has stated multiple times, we usually have a higher FG% than the other team, but still lose because we take less shots. That is because of giving up offensive rebounding and not defending three pointers. Cook doesn't help with either of those.

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Dean needs to start over Baker and Fountain over Reed.


Average tRant user could tell you this but it takes a coach that gets paid 2 mil a year 5 OOC losses to figure this out.


Promise if Wade was the coach with this roster he'd have been starting them from day 1.
Posted by southsidedell
Tampa, FL
Member since Dec 2016
4720 posts
Posted on 12/17/23 at 12:46 pm to
I'm gonna keep it real. I don't even care about MBB until whatever this rebuild is supposed to be is done.
Posted by Tiger in NY
Neptune Beach, FL
Member since Sep 2003
30365 posts
Posted on 12/17/23 at 12:52 pm to
bullshite. McMahon was unable to keep the team together and lost the 4 and 5 star recruits that were committed to Wade.
Posted by Bring Da Wood
Texas
Member since Dec 2006
1593 posts
Posted on 12/17/23 at 12:52 pm to
It’s a total rebuild but McBasement is also a poor coach from what I have seen. We lack talent but the turnovers are correctable as are his moronic player groupings. Why he continues to Jack with the substitutions in ways that make absolutely no sense is beyond me. Our defense is crap which is a want to issue. He isn’t getting everything out of the players he has recruited which is a big problem.
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
66853 posts
Posted on 12/17/23 at 12:52 pm to
how many more years til we’re not a bottom dweller is acceptable? 1,2,3,5?
Posted by gsvar2004
Member since Nov 2007
7954 posts
Posted on 12/17/23 at 1:03 pm to
Lol outside of the waters years, Wade never had a true point guard either. That’s a crap excuse.
Posted by mcmaniacinsaneasylum
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2023
1974 posts
Posted on 12/17/23 at 1:41 pm to
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Lol outside of the waters years, Wade never had a true point guard either. That’s a crap excuse.


I do agree that not having a "true PG" is a bad excuse, but it's blatantly false that Wade had no PGs.

Skylar Mays, Javonta Smart, Xavier Pinson, etc.. they were all PGs. Wade himself was a PG coach too.
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
28382 posts
Posted on 12/17/23 at 1:43 pm to
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We were down by 19 at half. If McMahon is as bad a coach as everyone says we should have lost by 30 - 40 points. Yet we came back and were only down 9 with around 4 minutes left before the 4 fouls / technical and questionable jump ball killed the run. On the road aganst #19. Team played hard, ran multiple defenses and dominated offensive boards. But none of that is coaching? Let’s see what happens going forward with Cook at point. Definitely going to be a better team


If moral victories counted McMahon would be a #1 seed

LSU NEVER had the lead at any point in the game. They trailed by double-digits for 80% or so of the game. But for a couple of garbage time 3’s at the end this is a 14-17 point loss. The 15th loss (of 21) to a major conference opponent by 10+ points.

Yet, fans are somehow supposed to be encouraged because LSU only lost by 11 instead of 30? There could not be a better microcosm of the state of the program. CELEBRATING 11 point losses because it wasn’t as bad as usual. Maybe TJ Ribs should start giving away a free order of onion rings every time LSU loses by less than 10.

And the band played on…
This post was edited on 12/17/23 at 2:16 pm
Posted by rutiger
purgatory
Member since Jun 2007
21128 posts
Posted on 12/17/23 at 1:51 pm to
quote:

He was a mediocre coach


Mediocre coaches dont have teams that lead the country in offensive efficiency multiple times.
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
35408 posts
Posted on 12/17/23 at 1:54 pm to
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With NIL and the portal, a program like LSU should never have talent problems at all.
Without the portal we wouldn't have had the exodus after Wade was fired. That works both ways and there simply isn't enough talent sitting around in April to lure to a team with zero players and an NOA.

People who claim otherwise are idiots.
Posted by gsvar2004
Member since Nov 2007
7954 posts
Posted on 12/17/23 at 2:03 pm to
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lure to a team with zero players and an NOA


You think these kids give a shite about NOA? They only care about the N B A. And with nil they care about how much money they can make over the shortest possible time before they can get there. Kids don’t give a shite about winning championships or the program any more ESPECIALLY in MBB
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
35408 posts
Posted on 12/17/23 at 2:16 pm to
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Cook does nothing to help the fact that our perimeter defense is abysmal and doesn't help the fact that we suck at rebounding.
Cook will help with rebounding. At times Williams seemed allergic to rebounding, almost never dropping down to help or putting a body on someone. Cook doesn't have those issues, at least in the first game.

Also Cook will help cut down on turnovers. I was fearful of running into full court presses in the SEC, and while that is largely a team effort, Cook has experience and speed.
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