re: Good point by Doug Thompson on Culotta earlier...

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Then you have Collins who has some velocity on his FB and everyone yells throw the FB. His FB must be flat because hitters T off on it. So he throws 15 hammers in a row but only 3 of them are strikes. It’s not just him though. We get cute with a lot of the pen arms. How many sliders does Guidry sling up there in row trying to get a swing and miss. Pitch selection is a big problem along with JJ’s timing on pitching changes.

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And both of these guys have 4 pitches. Guidry can throw a curveball and Collins can throw a slider. Both have changeups.

Why are we turning 4-pitch guys into 2-pitch guys? Especially when it makes then incredibly predictable and essentially 1-pitch guys.

For some reason, Money seems to be the only guy outside of Skenes and Floyd, who is allowed to use his whole arsenal.

I haven't read through this thread. Stopped on first page.

But the SEC set this in motion from the very first conference wknd, and almost across the board, it has remained

The strike zone is as tight as I have ever seen. Tighter than MLB. For the most part, when you take Skenes out of the equation, most of our guys will throw 4 balls before 3 strikes with the present zone.

Opposing hitters have been patient because they can afford to

The strike zone has been a problem all year, yes.

But yesterday, outside of Money getting squeezed a few times, the size of the zone wasn't an issue. Most of the pitchers weren't close enough to it to matter.

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With Collins, if he has to rely on his fastball he gets hit

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How many times has he given up a hit on his fastball when he wasn’t behind in the count? 3-1 fastballs get hit harder than 0-1 fastballs.

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I think we are letting a pre-approved approach dictate too much of the pitch calling. Instead of letting a pitcher throw what he’s most comfortable with on any given day, he has to make pitches in bad counts that seem to be meant for swing and miss rather than strikes. Just what I see. And it seems to be happening more often 2nd time through the lineup. Even Skenes has been using this approach but he can do no wrong with his velocity and movement.

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We have two pitchers that go through the lineup, Skenes and Floyd. The others don’t make it through once except on a rare occasion.

I’m talking about the other team’s second time through. Our relievers come in with that same approach. Very few fastballs.

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pson on Culotta earlier... by ell_13I’m talking about the other team’s second time through. Our relievers come in with that same approach. Very few fastballs.

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OK

Yes, our relievers rely too much on junk. They don’t command their junk well enough, get behind in the count and boom.

When it’s 0-2, 1-2, etc. a breaking ball just out of the zone is a good pitch; however when it’s a hitters count it isn’t. That what I see a lot.

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Coleman looks like Charlie frickin Liebrandt now.

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Are you trying to insult the kid by comparing him to a 14 year MLB vet?

Baseball today is obsessed with a pitcher’s “stuff.” At all levels, starting young. Gurus teach kids to throw hard, all about getting that velo up because that’s what impresses scouts. They don’t learn to pitch. Guys like Little and Hurd are all flash, light up the radar gun but can’t get outs. Everything is backwards. Learn to pitch, then work on your stuff. Take Skenes. He knew how to pitch before he came here. Then once he got here he added velocity and now he’s the best pitcher in the country. We have to bring guys in who can pitch and through our conditioning program add velocity/stuff. Stop falling for the flashy guys who have no idea what it takes to get guys out on the bump.