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re: Gators fired Raymond

Posted on 11/27/23 at 7:07 pm to
Posted by WaterLink
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2015
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Posted on 11/27/23 at 7:07 pm to
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Posted by burreauxxx
Member since Dec 2019
2758 posts
Posted on 11/27/23 at 7:07 pm to
And Moscona thought we should hire him back lol
Posted by Jim Hopper
Ocean Springs Mississippi
Member since Sep 2019
2060 posts
Posted on 11/27/23 at 7:07 pm to
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Guys drafted from our Secondary from 2017 til recently: Jamaal Adams Tre' White Donte Jackson Greedy Williams Grant Delpit Kristian Fulton Jacoby Stevens Kary Vincent Derrick Stingley Cordale Flott Jay Ward ..didn't include JBC because he transferred in after Raymond left.
notice none after the 2019 class. Which is why the secondary is in the position it’s in.
Posted by saintsfan22
baton rouge
Member since May 2006
71620 posts
Posted on 11/27/23 at 7:09 pm to
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everyone that said kelly made a mistake getting rid of him

Except we've been shite in the secondary too. It was a lose lose for both.
Posted by TaderSalad
mudbug territory
Member since Jul 2014
24656 posts
Posted on 11/27/23 at 7:10 pm to
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I'm not sure what we're waiting for.


We aren’t shaking up the defense that much
Posted by LSUAlum2001
Stavro Mueller Beta
Member since Aug 2003
47132 posts
Posted on 11/27/23 at 7:10 pm to
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notice none after the 2019 class. Which is why the secondary is in the position it’s in.


Still think Orgeron had a huge part in this.

..our entire classes took a dive after 2019.
Posted by SulphursFinest
Lafayette
Member since Jan 2015
8739 posts
Posted on 11/27/23 at 7:11 pm to
Technically Eli Ricks was coached by him for two years.
McGlothern was a good get as well.

Realistically the 2021 class was the bust class
Posted by SpencerRob
Pass Christian, MS
Member since May 2008
1136 posts
Posted on 11/27/23 at 7:11 pm to
There are dipshits on this site who still think he’s an elite DB coach, despite being fired twice in two years
Posted by jmon
Mandeville, LA
Member since Oct 2010
8415 posts
Posted on 11/27/23 at 7:12 pm to
We do not want him as a coach. His skillset is as a recruiter.
Posted by Srobi14
South Florida
Member since Aug 2014
3517 posts
Posted on 11/27/23 at 7:12 pm to
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People like to rag on him but that’s a phenomenal list


I think it's arguable that he is top 2 or 3 position coach recruiters all time at LSU. However, it was obvious he got complacent and lazy his last couple years here and was a main contributor of the cultural problem in the locker room. BK needed to get rid of him IMO and Billy seems to feel the same way.
Posted by WaterLink
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2015
17258 posts
Posted on 11/27/23 at 7:12 pm to
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Except we've been shite in the secondary too.


That doesn't mean letting Raymond go was a mistake. If a new hire doesn't work out that doesn't mean firing the previous guy was a mistake. That's a fallacy regarding coaching changes I see far too often.
Posted by notbilly
alter
Member since Sep 2015
4527 posts
Posted on 11/27/23 at 7:12 pm to
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notice none after the 2019 class. Which is why the secondary is in the position it’s in


That shite show started at the top. There was zero leadership from the HC.
Posted by ipodking
#StopTalkingAboutWomensSports
Member since Jun 2008
56301 posts
Posted on 11/27/23 at 7:13 pm to
Bring him home

Steeples is a nice guy but his lack of skins on the wall is being used against us in recruiting. Andre Evans confirmed as much when he said he’d rather go sit on the bench and be developed at UGa than go to LSU
This post was edited on 11/27/23 at 7:13 pm
Posted by WDAIII
Member since Aug 2020
3123 posts
Posted on 11/27/23 at 7:13 pm to
Why does everybody dislike him? I don't think BK offered him right? He did great things for LSU
Posted by SulphursFinest
Lafayette
Member since Jan 2015
8739 posts
Posted on 11/27/23 at 7:13 pm to
I think y’all are honestly putting a lot of blame on a position coach when the head coach was an absolute shite show. Corey Raymond didn’t dictate the locker room lmao. That was all Coach O
Posted by Jim Hopper
Ocean Springs Mississippi
Member since Sep 2019
2060 posts
Posted on 11/27/23 at 7:14 pm to
Two things can be true. Raymond was a solid coach from 2012-2019 but his recruiting errors from 20-21 has LSU in a major hole and having to rely on the portal.
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278420 posts
Posted on 11/27/23 at 7:14 pm to
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We could use his recruiting


yap. This matters more than coaching
Posted by 610man
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2005
7343 posts
Posted on 11/27/23 at 7:14 pm to
LSU should go get Karl Scott
Posted by Doctor K
mandeville
Member since Oct 2014
725 posts
Posted on 11/27/23 at 7:15 pm to
DB coaches are not millionaires! He may make 250,000 to 350,000
Posted by JakeFromStateFarm
*wears khakis
Member since Jun 2012
11911 posts
Posted on 11/27/23 at 7:15 pm to
I mean…he’s better than the guy we currently have.
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