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re: Former players pushing for Raymond to be the next LSU DC
Posted on 12/21/20 at 10:07 pm to CottonWasKing
Posted on 12/21/20 at 10:07 pm to CottonWasKing
This worries me in two ways. I worry that he’s to the point he wants to try and he walks when not given the chance or he’s given the chance, doesn’t do well and gets fired causing us to lose him.
Posted on 12/21/20 at 10:29 pm to CottonWasKing
frick Ryan Clark
no.
no.
This post was edited on 12/21/20 at 10:30 pm
Posted on 12/21/20 at 10:36 pm to Madking
quote:You have to look at the current situation here.
What kind of logic says you have to be a DC before you get your first DC job?
Understand, if LSU doesn't win the title last year, O is unemployed today. He's used every last inch of slack to survive, he doesn't have the room to experiment anymore.
Posted on 12/21/20 at 10:40 pm to Scoob
NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO!!!!
Ever since Arnsparger left and the players lobbied hard for Mike Archer to get the HC job (when up and comers like Steve Spurrier and Mack Brown were reportedly interested) I have never thought any player movement (past or present) should be considered anything more than an opinion.
If O thinks he's ready, let Raymond interview just like everybody else.
Ever since Arnsparger left and the players lobbied hard for Mike Archer to get the HC job (when up and comers like Steve Spurrier and Mack Brown were reportedly interested) I have never thought any player movement (past or present) should be considered anything more than an opinion.
If O thinks he's ready, let Raymond interview just like everybody else.
This post was edited on 12/21/20 at 10:41 pm
Posted on 12/21/20 at 10:40 pm to CottonWasKing
Give him the safety's back. There was more continuity on the back end when they all listen to one voice prior to Busch arriving.
Posted on 12/21/20 at 10:45 pm to CottonWasKing
Now I'm neither for nor against Raymond being DC but if Wisconsin had the same logic as some on this board none of us would know who Jim Leonard is. He had no prior history of being DC at a lower level program, and now he might be one of hottest names in college football.
Posted on 12/21/20 at 10:52 pm to ATCTx
quote:
If O thinks he's ready, let Raymond interview just like everybody else.
LSU football hasn’t “interviewed” for hires since Alleva took over the athletic department
Posted on 12/21/20 at 11:25 pm to Scoob
Of course man I get it. My argument is against the logic of excluding him out of hand based on this alternate form of reason. I think giving him a shot instead of hiring someone like Pelini was what should’ve happened and I’d love to see him get a shot here before we lose him but I also agree that if we can get a top shelf DC we should do that over hiring Raymond now. But if we find ourselves in the same type of scenario again Raymond should get his shot over some washed up retread who hasn’t fielded a good unit in a decade. Betting on a sure loser is infinitely worse than betting on inexperienced but talented.
This post was edited on 12/21/20 at 11:35 pm
Posted on 12/22/20 at 1:25 am to CottonWasKing
I wish they would have fired Bo early in the season and give Raymond the keys and see what he could do, but I just can’t see giving the keys to someone who has never been a DC. I love Raymond but can’t justify that.
Posted on 12/22/20 at 1:35 am to CottonWasKing
If players want a coach and believe in him, I’m inclined to agree.
Posted on 12/22/20 at 1:54 am to oilattorney4lsu
I'd rather fire him for declining production with elite talent then make him d coordinator
Posted on 12/22/20 at 2:18 am to TexasTiger1185
It worked out for Mizzou, with Barry Odom. What could go wrong?
Posted on 12/22/20 at 2:20 am to CottonWasKing
LSU is not a proving ground.
Posted on 12/22/20 at 3:44 am to Scoob
quote:
Understand, if LSU doesn't win the title last year, O is unemployed today. He's used every last inch of slack to survive, he doesn't have the room to experiment anymore.
He also lost a percentage of the locker room over the social justice/Fox/Trump stuff. Hiring CR might mend some of those fences.
If you don’t have the locker room, Bellicheck won’t help you on defense.
The ex players are boxing O into a corner with this hire.
Posted on 12/22/20 at 5:12 am to Madking
quote:
That’s not why he was passed over. If Arnsparger would’ve been given the AD job Spurrier would’ve come here.
im not connected, but that not the story i heard
Posted on 12/22/20 at 6:01 am to CottonWasKing
That’s ridiculous coach o would be putting a noose around his neck if he would make that decision.
Posted on 12/22/20 at 6:19 am to CottonWasKing
I think he has what it takes. He’s coached under some of the best. It’s not like he’s masterminding some entirely new way to coach defense. Unlike Pelini, it sounds like the kids want to play for him.
Posted on 12/22/20 at 6:22 am to CottonWasKing
i remember another time we capitulated to make a hire that the players rallied behind.....Mike Archer.
Posted on 12/22/20 at 6:56 am to CottonWasKing
Players are horrible judges of who should be the Coach. There are countless examples of this
Johnny Jones is a prime example of this just at LSU
Johnny Jones is a prime example of this just at LSU
This post was edited on 12/22/20 at 6:58 am
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