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re: Finally an explanation bout why Ole Miss went for two so early
Posted on 9/22/26 at 1:44 pm to KCSunshine
Posted on 9/22/26 at 1:44 pm to KCSunshine
Goldie outcoached Lane on that one. He knew our D-Line would be eagerly aggressive to stop the play and jump offsides.
Posted on 9/22/26 at 1:46 pm to GeauxldEye
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Hindsight. If their run gets stuffed, it would have gone down as one of the dumbest calls in football history.
I'm saying it was smart to line up like they were going for 2 before the 2 penalties just to try and get us to burn our last timeout or to get us to jump. It worked twice and they were so close after 2 penalties that they took a calculated risk. Whether that was smart or dumb is definitely debatable, but it's very hard for a tired D to stop someone from getting half a yard or whatever.
But there was also had over six minutes left in the game at that point with a QB who torched us a lot in the game with a FG who can hit from 60+ (though he missed a rare one against us).
Posted on 9/22/26 at 1:50 pm to FireGoodell
This is the issue when you know a coach so well. Even Lane said when LSU has the ball and it was 3rd down at the goal line that he knew Pete knew what he was going to do. When he pulled Leavitt out I for sure thought they were gonna throw it left. When they ran the ball it blew my mind. Lane said "we planned on going for it on 4th but we lost a yard." Well no crap because they knew what was coming.
Posted on 9/22/26 at 1:50 pm to BoudinChicot
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Golding played Lane like a fiddle.
If Lane had Chambliss he would have Golding singing the blues all night long.
Posted on 9/22/26 at 2:12 pm to EvrybodysAllAmerican
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was a brilliant call.
No it wasnt! Youre wrong.
If there were 1000 tds in football this year, scored by the home team, to go up 7, or go for 2 with under 5 to play.....
999.5 of the time they would all kick the xtra pt......considering kicker was healthy, of course.
Theres a reason for that, because its a bad idea not to kick. You really want to be in a situation where opponent scores and wins with a PAT? No!
This was in regulation, NOT OT
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If they’d been up 7, kiffin would certainly have gone for 2 on the road anyway.
Not even maybe. No way. Our OL was getting hammered, and our qb was shaky, at best.
Posted on 9/22/26 at 2:22 pm to KCSunshine
Dud it in case we scored. We would have to go for 2 to tie. Other wise we score get the 2 and win
A dummy could figure that out
A dummy could figure that out
Posted on 9/22/26 at 2:32 pm to FireGoodell
was still a pretty big gamble to take
it worked but imagine if you don't get it and LSU wins with a TD and extra point when you most likely would have had an overtime game at home
it worked but imagine if you don't get it and LSU wins with a TD and extra point when you most likely would have had an overtime game at home
Posted on 9/22/26 at 2:46 pm to KCSunshine
My theory is that they did it because a) we had barely stopped the run all game and b) they wanted to break our will.
Posted on 9/22/26 at 2:47 pm to Big EZ Tiger
quote:maybe in hindsight, but if we stuff them, and we score a touchdown and extra point and win, Pete would be run out of town.
I think they outcoached us in the game. That was a smart move.
Posted on 9/22/26 at 2:55 pm to Alt26
I think you guys are missing that he was going to kick the xp until LSU jumped offsides.
They were lining up to
a) try to draw LSU offsides
b) see what defense LSU was going to line up in on a 2 pt play
c) Get LSU to use their last timeout.
When LSU jumped offsides not once but twice, it was a much easier decision to go for 2, and like i said earlier, worst case is youre still up 6 and getting the ball back at some point down no more than 2. best case is you get the 8 point lead and its pretty much ball game.
Just admit the guy made a good call. I never thought Golding was a good coach either, but i was impressed by that call and the way his team was prepared for LSU.
They were lining up to
a) try to draw LSU offsides
b) see what defense LSU was going to line up in on a 2 pt play
c) Get LSU to use their last timeout.
When LSU jumped offsides not once but twice, it was a much easier decision to go for 2, and like i said earlier, worst case is youre still up 6 and getting the ball back at some point down no more than 2. best case is you get the 8 point lead and its pretty much ball game.
Just admit the guy made a good call. I never thought Golding was a good coach either, but i was impressed by that call and the way his team was prepared for LSU.
Posted on 9/22/26 at 2:57 pm to Meauxjeaux
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Explain to me like I'm a liberal woman how needing a TD + 1 is strategically different than needing a TD +2 on that last drive?
Doesn't make the play calling that different for the most part, but you do have to save a play for the 2 pt conversion. That would have possibly affected a 4th and short call.
Also it does help their defense prep for said 2 pt conversion, as they always knew we'd need that too.
If down 7 and we score, and go for 2, they might be caught off guard.
And it helped their D knowing they "couldn't lose" on that last drive, worst case scenario was OT. They had 2 chances to make one stop. They got the stop on the 1st part.
We dont jump offsides, we have 3 plays from the 5. I think we run all 3 and score.
Posted on 9/22/26 at 3:15 pm to EvrybodysAllAmerican
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I think you guys are missing that he was going to kick the xp until LSU jumped offsides.
They were lining up to
a) try to draw LSU offsides
b) see what defense LSU was going to line up in on a 2 pt play
c) Get LSU to use their last timeout.
When LSU jumped offsides not once but twice, it was a much easier decision to go for 2, and like i said earlier, worst case is youre still up 6 and getting the ball back at some point down no more than 2. best case is you get the 8 point lead and its pretty much ball game.
Just admit the guy made a good call. I never thought Golding was a good coach either, but i was impressed by that call and the way his team was prepared for LSU.
That is the public line to (A) make himself sound like a great HC and (B) not tell you the actual reason, that he had no faith in his defense stopping LSU because it had not on the previous 3 drives. Even though a conversion from the one is easier, there is still a chance LSU gets a stop. If so and LSU scores 7 to win the game when 7 would have just tied it had OM kicked the XP that crowd might have thrown Golding out of the stadium from the top of the student section.
He did not believe in his defense. It's "brilliant" because it worked out, but in the moment it was an incredibly dumb decision if LSU stops it. That would have been an all time stupid decision if LSU wins by one because Golding goes for 2 when there was no reason to do so.
Posted on 9/22/26 at 3:18 pm to KCSunshine
It was not stupid cause they got it. If they wouldn't have gotten it and LSU went down and scored and kicked PAT to win. They would have crucified Ile miss coaching
Posted on 9/22/26 at 3:20 pm to KCSunshine
While this was happening, I figured they went for 2 because they knew lane would go for 2 and if they didn't get it, they are confident enough in their kicker and Chambliss to be able to get 3 points to win the game.
It was smart coaching - probably not Golding's idea...
It was smart coaching - probably not Golding's idea...
Posted on 9/22/26 at 3:23 pm to Tigerstark
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that would have been crazy
The Ole Miss fans in the section I was sitting in definitely weren't happy when they initially lined up. Too bad the D-Line made it easy for them!
Posted on 9/22/26 at 3:38 pm to KCSunshine
It worked so it was a great move. Can you imagine if it didnt though? And we go down the field and score?
Heck of a call from Pete though.
Heck of a call from Pete though.
Posted on 9/22/26 at 4:02 pm to KCSunshine
Make it or miss it they would only need a field goal after an LSU score. It was as close to noise as you can get really.
Posted on 9/22/26 at 4:03 pm to FireGoodell
quote:100%
I figured they thought Lane would go for 2 if we scored the next drive, so they were just beating him to the punch.
Either way, it was good coaching. Credit where credit is due. Golding & Co did a great job.
Posted on 9/22/26 at 4:04 pm to KCSunshine
They knew if they went PAT that Lane would go for the W if we scored
Pete being a defensive coach hedged by believing they’d get a stop regardless.
It was a both bold and dumb move that worked. Of course we could have tied it up or given ourselves a chance to get it 32-32 but preceded to play like a bunch of prats in the red zone.
Pete being a defensive coach hedged by believing they’d get a stop regardless.
It was a both bold and dumb move that worked. Of course we could have tied it up or given ourselves a chance to get it 32-32 but preceded to play like a bunch of prats in the red zone.
Posted on 9/22/26 at 4:20 pm to S
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They knew if they went PAT that Lane would go for the W if we scored
Which goes back to the fact Golding felt LSU WOULD score. The decision to go for two is irrelevant if you don't first score the TD.
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Pete being a defensive coach hedged by believing they’d get a stop regardless.
Then why go for two if you are confident in a stop? A 7 point win is just as decisive as an 8 point win. If you are confident your defense will keep LSU out of the endzone then why incur the unnecessary risk of only going up 6 on the off chance LSU does score a TD? If the thought process was "Lane is going to go for 2 if he scores so we need to make sure he can only tie us, then inherent in that thought is the concession that LSU WILL score." Otherwise, you kick the XP and force the road team to both score a TD and convert a 2 point conversion.
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Either way, it was good coaching. Credit where credit is due. Golding & Co did a great job.
OM did a good job of coaching. But that wasn't one of the instances. It was an unnecessary risk that worked out. But that doesn't make it a "good" decision in the moment. Hindsight is 20/20 because we know the ultimate result. But I can assure the overwhelming number of people in the stand and watching at home were thinking "WTF is he doing?" when they saw OM line up to go for two.
They won the game and he gets to pretend it was some movement of clairvoyance rather than a lack of trust in his defense. But had the decision backfired and LSU won by simply kicking a XP fans and commentators alike would STILL be talking about how dumb of a decision it was.
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