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re: Explain to me why Woodward is a great AD.
Posted on 1/10/20 at 6:12 am to magildachunks
Posted on 1/10/20 at 6:12 am to magildachunks
75 million to Jimbo was probably easy money for A$M...
That school has deep pockets
That school has deep pockets
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Posted on 1/10/20 at 6:17 am to ApexTiger
Alleva showing up at the Vanderbilt basketball game, getting booed relentlessly and acting socially retarded the whole night is why he got fired
That’s a beautiful microcosm of his reign.
The guy didn’t get it, but hey Bc he was cheap, he hired a guy nobody else would have and it just happened to be a decent hire to date. If that don’t tell ya he was a great AD then I don’t know what does
That’s a beautiful microcosm of his reign.
The guy didn’t get it, but hey Bc he was cheap, he hired a guy nobody else would have and it just happened to be a decent hire to date. If that don’t tell ya he was a great AD then I don’t know what does
Posted on 1/10/20 at 6:17 am to magildachunks
Bro do you even follow LSU sports ? The AD is suppose to lead behind the curtains not be the face of it. That’s exactly how Woodward has run this bitch since he has been here. Second every frickin thing seemed to be a cluster of a decision when Alleva was at the helm that is a reflection on the AD and no one else. He can do and say whatever he wants to save face now he is looking for another good paying job I might too.
Now have a good day Dicknose
Now have a good day Dicknose
Posted on 1/10/20 at 6:20 am to Rosenblatt
Had Alleva/LSU hired Jimbo ($75MM), LSU would have been near bankruptcy at buyout time....and it will come to aTM.
Woodward allowed himself to be bullied by the aTm$$$ and the AGENT for Jimbo ... Jimmy Sexton who holds the monopoly.
IT DOES NOT TAKE A GENIUS TO OVERPAY FOR SOMETHING.
Alleva is not as bad as the youngsters here make him to be...
a lot of good came to LSU during his early tenure...and I would bet that Woodward is not as great either.
HISTORY is still to be written for Woodward
Woodward allowed himself to be bullied by the aTm$$$ and the AGENT for Jimbo ... Jimmy Sexton who holds the monopoly.
IT DOES NOT TAKE A GENIUS TO OVERPAY FOR SOMETHING.
Alleva is not as bad as the youngsters here make him to be...
a lot of good came to LSU during his early tenure...and I would bet that Woodward is not as great either.
HISTORY is still to be written for Woodward
This post was edited on 1/10/20 at 6:24 am
Posted on 1/10/20 at 6:20 am to rbdallas
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that decides who I invite to a party, not who I hire as an AD.
Then you simply don't understand the role relationship building plays in being an AD...especially at a place like LSU where State politics get so involved.
Posted on 1/10/20 at 6:24 am to rbdallas
So your entire argument is a hypothetical that never happened here?
And you edited your post to double down that you’re criticizing him for a hire for which the story is yet to be written
You’ll need to do better than this bc that’s a pretty weak argument man
And you edited your post to double down that you’re criticizing him for a hire for which the story is yet to be written
You’ll need to do better than this bc that’s a pretty weak argument man
This post was edited on 1/10/20 at 6:33 am
Posted on 1/10/20 at 6:28 am to saint tiger225
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His hand was more forced with the Jimbo situation. The big money at aTm wanted him and that's what they got.
Yeah, people who think that was somehow is singular decision are idiots.
The people actually in charge of A&M got EXACTLY what they wanted with the Jimbo hire. Woodward wasn’t ultimately calling the shots there. It’s silly to think otherwise.
The AD at LSU is not ultimately calling the shots on a football coach hire either b
Posted on 1/10/20 at 6:42 am to Geauxld Finger
I notice that OP is choosing not to acknowledge all the examples you’ve said which is par for the course...
Posted on 1/10/20 at 6:44 am to Powerman
quote:
Everyone shits on Alleva just because they're parroting what they hear other people say
People shite on Alleva because of his track record. He was extremely indecisive (Miles firing/not firing is a very public example but there are many more); he was very quick to decide against athletes and coaches - the Wade suspension is a clear example as is his destruction of the Duke LaCrosse team on completely fabricated accusations.
He is a very good accountant but that is only a small aspect of an ADs job. He was bad to terrible with donors, worse with coaches, and obviously when it came to players he was even worse than his handling of coaches.
A good AD is seen not heard. Seen in the success of the athletic department and not heard running to a camera condemning coaches and athletes at every accusation. They approach accusations with a somber maturity, not a knee jerk reaction.
Posted on 1/10/20 at 6:50 am to Geauxld Finger
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Why alleva sucks:
Shitty at navigating issues.
Example: Les firing, not firing, then firing.
Example: the Florida hurricane fiasco where we played two straight games away
Example: will wade ordeal
Example: duke rape fiasco
Example: compliance restrictions and behind the scenes athletic support (Woodward excels here)
Joe was also a huge prick. Stand offish and arrogant. Worked with him several times. Woodward is approachable and very friendly
This is a great post! You nailed it! I don’t know if Woodward is good. I know that Alleva was a PC weathervane and an insufferably arrogant prick. Thank God he’s gone.
Posted on 1/10/20 at 6:52 am to magildachunks
They don't know why they love him other than his LSU background.
Posted on 1/10/20 at 6:56 am to magildachunks
If anyone thinks that Jimbo decision was all on Woodward, then you’re an idiot. Big money donors were willing to pay whatever it took to get him.
Posted on 1/10/20 at 6:57 am to Powerman
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Everyone shits on Alleva just because they're parroting what they hear other people say
Oh how funny that people quickly forget the hurricane debacle that Alleva screwed up. Or the Duke Lacrosse scandal.
Posted on 1/10/20 at 6:58 am to Rosenblatt
The other example of Alleva’s ineffectiveness was the whole football schedule rotation issue. Not ONE SEC AD would vote with Alleva to get the permanent East opponent rotated off the schedule when he promoted the idea. Not ONE. And this happened repeatedly. Dude was disliked by all the other AD’s in the conference he couldn’t get just one to go along with him. Was totally whipped by that asshat Foley in the hurricane game rescheduling as well. He was just an arrogant, incompetent boob that should’ve never worked as an AD after Duke Lacross. Never.
Posted on 1/10/20 at 7:09 am to Geauxld Finger
Much of Alleva issues were not his doing.. the BOS called the shot.
He did hire and support Trent Johnson..amazingly bad. Johnny Jones and Nicki Fargas. Not good.
Recommended the right move on Orgeron and hired WW
On Woodward.. anyone can spend a lot of money. TAM has far more resources than LSU.
Can he raise money. Can he navigate the different factions of LSU boosters?
We are about to get another huge increase in revenue from the TV contract renewal
Whatever Woodward more like able than Alleva. Jury is out. Woodward is new.
Is it Woodward who allowed the picking and choosing of games for the suspensions? If so very good.
He did hire and support Trent Johnson..amazingly bad. Johnny Jones and Nicki Fargas. Not good.
Recommended the right move on Orgeron and hired WW
On Woodward.. anyone can spend a lot of money. TAM has far more resources than LSU.
Can he raise money. Can he navigate the different factions of LSU boosters?
We are about to get another huge increase in revenue from the TV contract renewal
Whatever Woodward more like able than Alleva. Jury is out. Woodward is new.
Is it Woodward who allowed the picking and choosing of games for the suspensions? If so very good.
Posted on 1/10/20 at 7:11 am to magildachunks
quote:
How?
What evidence do you have?
Woodward never sold out Will Wade.
Posted on 1/10/20 at 7:12 am to lucki98
I’m not gonna pretend that the Wade situation last year was an easy one to navigate but you are disconnected from reality if you think he handled it the right way. Alleva bungled it about as bad as you possibly could.
This post was edited on 1/10/20 at 7:13 am
Posted on 1/10/20 at 7:17 am to magildachunks
Since you are a renowned troll, I'll only give you the answer that matters.
Jimbo is not bad because "Jimbo", Jimbo is bad because "atm".
What quality character person would ever want to attend that school?
Jimbo is not bad because "Jimbo", Jimbo is bad because "atm".
What quality character person would ever want to attend that school?
Posted on 1/10/20 at 7:18 am to OGtigerfan87
Alleva along with F.King and their cronies are/were culturally deaf...they did their best to destroy tailgating on campus instead of working with people to fix the issues, i.e. trash on the Parade Ground
Posted on 1/10/20 at 7:56 am to jmon
quote:
Jimbo is not bad because "Jimbo", Jimbo is bad because "atm".
What quality character person would ever want to attend that school?
Why insert that throw away line into your argument? It is a ridiculous statement and make people discount your entire argument. I know a lot of "Quality Character" people who attended A&M.
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