re: ESPN: LSU insiders say Alleva has wanted to hire O since day Miles fired

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I wouldn't hate it if we kept O on with Aranda..we really have great assistants throughout our program, I think we would be fine letting them do their job and letting CEO be the CEO

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That may be fine for next year, but ultimately those assistants will move on and simply managing the program may not be enough. It isn't about whether Orgeron is good enough for the job, it is about whether he is the best for the job.

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I'm a ESPN insider and I am hearing from multiple sources that Schlabach and McMurphy have both been known to give a foot tap or two while in the stalls at the men's room.

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I wouldn't pass up on Chip Kelly if he became interested, but if CEO could keep Aranda and get Kiffen, I'd listen.

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See this line of thinking is irrational to me. If you can justify keeping Orgeron on as the HC, surely Ensminger will have proven he is worth of staying on as the OC too, right?

Hell, people are giddy about the offense in the last two games, and rightfully so. However, that has very little to do with a DL coach who is the interim guy now. The fact that so many want to give him credit for that while also wanting to go get a top OC doesn't make sense to me. I'd prefer if all jobs were on the table next year and the best man available gets the gig. Going undefeated from here on out would be a great feather in the cap of the current staff, but it shouldn't mean anyone is a shoe-in as a result. Granted, Aranda is 99% likely to be the best guy for the DC spot so he's pretty much a lock to stay on if he wants to do so.

No problem with keeping the staff we have. If we miss on Herman and fisher and O only lost a game or two close and we keep Aranda and Craig and hire a good OC I think Lsu would be fine. Most of the coaches mentioned have struggles all over their team. O has some experience as HC and then after getting that perspective he spends several years under Pete Carroll. All coaches have had struggles before they grow into great coaches. O could do the same

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After missing out on Herman and Florida State's Jimbo Fisher,

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Is this a foregone conclusion? I'm not sure.

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the Tigers will hire Orgeron.

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I've said this before and I'll say it again....if O can keep Aranda and bring on a prolific modern OC (Ahem Lane Kiffin....yea I know not gonna happen) then I don't think this would be the worst move.

Unless Coach O repeats some of the stupid Miles stuff there is 90% chance that he has the job.

I've been really critical of Joe Alleva in the past, especially in how that whole debacle played out last November. Thus far, I have to give him credit-- he is maintaining radio silence on the coaching change/search, and very few leaks have emerged from the athletic dept.

Only blip I have seen thus far was when F. King interjected that he would be involved with the search right after Alleva basically said it would be a one-man coaching search, and he would be conducting it. Hopefully, someone with a hefty checkbook has taken F. King to the side, told him to STFU, and stay out of the media spotlight.

Bottom line: when ESPN is having to pull stuff out of their arse (as they are doing here) because they have no solid leads or leaks, the coaching search is being conducted in the right way.

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All coaches have had struggles before they grow into great coaches. O could do the same

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great, then let O prove he's a "great coach" at a smaller school before handing him the keys to LSU's program.

You honestly believe LSU will hire a guy that was 3-21 in conference in his only stint as a permanent HC???

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I've said this before and I'll say it again....if O can keep Aranda and bring on a prolific modern OC (Ahem Lane Kiffin....yea I know not gonna happen) then I don't think this would be the worst move.

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I've asked this before and I'll ask it again - how do you justify keeping Orgeron, presumably on the basis of the first two games and the rest of the season, but still think we will need a new OC?

Why wouldn't Alleva want to hire O?

Hiring O means that O won enough games this year to placate boosters. Win.
Hiring O means that Alleva won't have to go through the stress and cost of searching the nation for the next coach. Win.
Hiring O means that a new coach won't demand bringing in his own staff, creating the need for Alleva to buy out and dispatch Aranda and others. Win.
Hiring O means that the highly-touted 2017 recruiting class will largely stay intact. Win.
Hiring O, a Louisiana native, means that Alleva won't be put in the pressure cooker every year with the threat of losing the big-name hire to the NFL. Win.


Other than placating the fanbase who will not be satisfied with any hire other than Saban, what incentive is there for LSU to hire someone other than a recently successful Orgeron?

Orgeron is the answer to all of Alleva's troubles. To make the hire palpable to those who can't see O in any other light than a failed Ole Miss coach, O has to keep up his end of the bargain, which is "simply" beat everybody else on the schedule, including 'Bama, to win the SEC. Neaux sweat.