re: Does Matt McMahon face the toughest coaching challenge in LSU history?

1. CMM did not inherit a roster that that has been to 3/4 NCAA tournaments. They are all heading out the door. He will inherit a roster of bench players/walk-ons.
2. He has recruited all non-SEC caliber players to replace the departing players and may pickup more of his Ohio Valley Tournament team, but you will not win consistently with these players against most SEC teams. The jury is still out whether he can recruit at the level necessary to have success.
3. We are still under the cloud of SEC sanctions and the congressional bill yesterday will likely move up the timetable for implementation of sanctions. This will still make it very difficult to recruit quality recruits. Only time will tell how successful he will be. Personally I hope he is successful beyond all of our wildest dreams.
You my friend with your selective, biased analysis and incoherent analogies are the IDIOT!

I mean fair or not part of McMahon's Job right now is to re recruit all the players on the roster. If he can't/doesn't want, to retain a single kid that's kinda on the staff.

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You talking about Hunt Palmer? I had a chuckle listening to him seriously arguing LSU has the #11 athletic department in the SEC on top of it while I was at lunch yesterday

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Can't take credit for 0-36. Though I have said I'd probably take under 3.5 wins in SEC play next year.

As far as the #11 spot (talking only about FB,MBB,BB). I just kind of went off data.

You've had a coaching change in all three sports. I think basketball for next year is going to be 14th of 14. Could be wrong but certainly not top 10. Football has gone 11-12 over the last two years. Baseball hasn't been great the last two years (I think 2020 might have been really bad).

I'd definitely bet on LSU's big 3 over most of the league in the next 3-5 years, but as we sit here today LSU doesn't have much to hang its hat on.

Thought it was an interesting discussion point. That's kind of the job.

With the new transfer rules, no

When the hell are these sanctions supposed to happen? Youd think there would be a little since of urgency.

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1. CMM did not inherit a roster that that has been to 3/4 NCAA tournaments. They are all heading out the door. He will inherit a roster of bench players/walk-ons.

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The program as a BRAND has reached 3/4 NCAA Tournaments. I never said McMahon was inheriting the TEAM from last year.

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He has recruited all non-SEC caliber players to replace the departing players and may pickup more of his Ohio Valley Tournament team, but you will not win consistently with these players against most SEC teams. The jury is still out whether he can recruit at the level necessary to have success.

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He's been the HC at LSU for NINE DAYS. I know this might be a wild suggestion, but perhaps we should give the man a little more than nine days to construct his roster.

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We are still under the cloud of SEC sanctions and the congressional bill yesterday will likely move up the timetable for implementation of sanctions.

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The bill hasn't been introduced yet (unless it was introduced today). Once introduced, it still has to be debated and passed by both houses. That process generally takes time before it is signed into law. Plus, if enacted (as currently written) the NCAA will then have a year to carry out the new mandates. Finally, there is no indication the new law would be retroactive (i.e. applicable to current cases). So it may not even apply to LSU's case.

The "cloud of sanctions" as a recruiting deterrent is something that fans are more terrified of than players. Players want to go to a place where, first and foremost, they feel gives them the best opportunity to showcase their abilities in hopes of it translating to a professional career. That's why a guy like Adam Miller transferred to LSU despite being a starting guard on an Illinois team that was a #1 seed last year. He felt playing at LSU under Wade was a better fit for HIM...even though you could argue Illinois was set up for greater team success. Arizona, also under a "cloud of sanctions" has two top 70 players committed for the 2023 class. Don't be shocked if they get some good transfers this offseason despite operating under a "cloud of sanctions". Same for Louisville, under their new HC, who is known as a great recruiter.

Players do what is best for them. Sure, they'd like to go to the NCAA Tournament. But their first priority is to go somewhere they can be showcased/developed for a potential professional career.

It's not exactly Marshall Football but it'll be tough for a while. We might as well be patient. We have no choice.

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John Brady took over a program that at the time was in complete free fall AND received NCAA sanctions: 1 year postseason ban, loss of 6 scholarships over 3 years, recruiting restrictions. Wade took over a program mired in apathy coming off its worst SEC record in program history.

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I just knew there would be a Wade fan Boi in here to tell us how hard he had it.

Wade burned the program. Took over for a sub par coach and ran it into the ground in just 5 years.

He's got to win over the cult of Wade members, many of whom will want him to fail.

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I just knew there would be a Wade fan Boi in here to tell us how hard he had it

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Please tell the class what is factually incorrect in the statement that Wade took over a program coming off its worst SEC record in program history? Also, judging by the actual attendance during the 16-17 season, I'd say apathetic accurately described the attitude towards LSU basketball.

Brady, and to a lesser extent, Wade, had it harder than McMahon if, for nothing else, one huge advantage McMahon has that no coaches prior to last year had, the immediate eligibility transfer rule. It is a complete game changer when you can bring in good and experienced D-1 players who can play immediately vs. having to build a program solely through HS recruiting, JUCO signees, and the relatively small pool of grad transfers.