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Posted on 9/4/24 at 9:20 am to TN Tygah
Sloan needs to scheme players open. Even denbrock loved his comeback routes. But if you watch they doubled Kyren. We have to scheme the other guys open in those situations hence why Anderson was wide open on that dig late in the game. I don’t understand why we didn’t continue to do that. Instead run into brick wall after brick wall. Still doesn’t sit right with me.
Posted on 9/4/24 at 9:35 am to SlowFlowPro
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It's very likely no zone reads were ever called, with Nuss at QB.
They were called. Now, whether or not Nussmeier was expressly told not to pull the ball is an unknown. Jacob Hester and Flynn talked about it extensively on the radio today. USC added another player to the edge to help stop the run and that guy never hesitated to crash because there was no worry whatsoever Nuss was going to pull the ball. Nuss isn't Daniels. But he at least has to give a brief moment of concern he may pull to keep the defense honest.
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That's the problem with our run scheme, and has been under BK, even when we had Daniels. Too much shotgun telegraphing our plays and not enough variance.
Last year LSU basically ran inside zone all of the time. But they could because of Daniels. DEs/Edges had to play Daniels. You saw some more variety in the run game on Sunday. Yes, there was inside zone. But you saw some outside zone as well, along with several counters. The biggest run of the game was a counter where Jones/Frazier pulled to blow a hole open in the middle for Emery.
I didn't love the rushed 3rd & 1 call. But the OL more or less did their job. It was the TEs failing to block that blew up the play. Even if Pimpton gets a body on the crashing DE it may have been enough to allow Emery to get the one yard he needed.
Posted on 9/4/24 at 9:40 am to Nitrogen
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they were vital to promote to Co-Offensive Coordinators due to Underwood, recruiting and continuance, and our QB and WR development. You just don’t replace coaches like these
I understand the importance of retaining them for recruiting and continuity, but you can't promote them just because you're scared you'll lose Underwood if you don't. That's ridiculous. There's no guarantee that the kid will even honor his commitment.
Posted on 9/4/24 at 9:45 am to Alt26
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They were called.
How do we know this?
If so, we need to abandon all running out of the gun, because Nuss isn't making the right reads.
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USC added another player to the edge to help stop the run and that guy never hesitated to crash because there was no worry whatsoever
Yes. If we had any zone read plays, Nuss completely failed at the most basic execution of them.
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Last year LSU basically ran inside zone all of the time.
We switched up and ran a lot of pistol and motion in/out of pistol.
Even if we're running inside zone out of the pistol, we aren't telegraphing which side we're running to (which means teams can never sell out like USC did). How many times did we run out of the pistol Sunday night?
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It was the TEs failing to block that blew up the play.
Because USC knew what we were doing and had no concern about
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USC added another player to the edge to help stop the run and that guy never hesitated to crash because there was no worry whatsoever
They sold out on a high-% guess and it paid off.
Posted on 9/4/24 at 9:46 am to TN Tygah
Kelly literally said we needed to run the ball. I highly doubt Sloan was the loan culprit in that decision.
Posted on 9/4/24 at 10:04 am to The Pirate King
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He wears a headset all game. How about flipping down the mic and shouting GET LACY THE BALL?
You dam right!!!
Why wait until halftime or the next game... USC coach was making adjustments how they attacked us at the end of the game, as Lincoln Riley will adjust throughout the whole game.
But the problem with that is BK prolly had something to do with more running in the 2nd half.... But, he would have won the game if not stubborn, and change back to threatening down the field, and not many people would be commenting about all of this had we won.
Posted on 9/4/24 at 10:23 am to Alt26
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LSU had 12 rushing attempts in the first half. 13 in the second half.
Compare total plays called. Compare 3 and outs. I would bet the number of 3 and outs was higher in teh 2nd and half of those runs in the 2nd caused the 3 and outs.
Posted on 9/4/24 at 10:23 am to LSBoosie
Kelly scapegoats assistants...its what he does.
Posted on 9/4/24 at 10:25 am to StadiumDormNEZ72
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And how do you know this? I mean , we may see a pre-snap shift or reset, but how do we know if the shifts were part of the original call? And hollering stuff at the LOS can be just window dressing or distraction, same as shifts…???
So if it reflects poorly on Nuss we definitely know he was able to do it and didn't. If it reflects positively then we can't really be sure it wasn't window dressing. Got it.
Posted on 9/4/24 at 10:37 am to SlowFlowPro
LSU has been running the same stupid shotgun run play right up the gut for like 5 years in a row now. It seems like that’s literally the only run play in LSUs playbook with a rare counter run play.
Idk if an LSU coach will ever figure out that you can run to the outside at this point.
Idk if an LSU coach will ever figure out that you can run to the outside at this point.
Posted on 9/4/24 at 12:00 pm to TN Tygah
He already said that he will be talking to Sloan about not making Lacy disappear in the second half.
Posted on 9/4/24 at 12:07 pm to TN Tygah
He once made Denbrock step back and took over the play calling, but their relationship was professional. Denbrock came back to work for CBK for LSU. And before you idiots say well he left, yes to back closer to home and his in-law elderly parents. There is far left drama in the coaching profession than it is on the Rant no matter what people think or claim to know.
Posted on 9/4/24 at 12:09 pm to Skillet
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BK, with his highly overrated O-line wanted to impose his will with the running game in the 2nd half, and failed
13 carries for 70 yards or something like that in the second half but don't let the stats get in the way of your narrative.
Posted on 9/4/24 at 12:09 pm to TN Tygah
He should talk more to Nuss about calling a timeout.
Posted on 9/4/24 at 12:09 pm to Skillet
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Posted on 9/4/24 at 12:18 pm to redfishfan
The O was dealing in the first half. No way Sloan was backing off that.
Posted on 9/4/24 at 12:50 pm to GeauxGutsy
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He’s never sniffed a NC.
Yes, he has.
Granted it was at ND with a cupcake schedule, but he's gotten close. There's plenty of material to shite on Kelly with, no need to outright lie.
Posted on 9/4/24 at 12:54 pm to TN Tygah
Kelly said during halftime interview that we needed to establish the running game.
Sloan did a poor job with play calling, but the general philosophy is on Kelly.
Sloan did a poor job with play calling, but the general philosophy is on Kelly.
Posted on 9/4/24 at 1:17 pm to SlowFlowPro
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It's very likely no zone reads were ever called, with Nuss at QB.
I agree. And it’s not because Nuss isn’t athletic or fast enough to pick up a few yards around the end. It’s because they’re trying to protect him. I think there is a huge gap between him and #2–whoever that is, Kelly said they both were #2, which means neither one of them did enough to actually win the job—and Kelly/Sloan are terrified of Nuss getting hurt because they know the season is a complete loss at that point.
Which I understand, but it just hamstrings the entire offense way too much. Carter Bryant talked a lot about that last night—USC’s edges were crashing down on the RBs and completely ignoring Nuss on every play. It’s like it gave them an extra run defender. Their DE even admitted it after the game that they “knew the QB wasn’t going to run the ball, so that made it easier.” Or something to that effect.
Now, Ive got a replay of OTB on in the background and Hester, after having watched the tape, is saying the exact same thing that Carter was. With the same verbiage. Their edges knew Nuss they didn’t have to respect Nuss running, so they crashed down on the RB with their hair on fire and zero delay due to even thinking about having to read anything. And it basically gave them an extra run defender.
I paused it to reply to this, but he’s in the process of talking about how many times a game you have to let Nuss run there just to keep the edges honest. Is it a risk Nuss might get hurt? Sure. But not enough of one to not do it and keep limiting the running game. They’ve got to either trust him to make the read and pull it 4 or 5 times a game or just call runs for him out of that zone read formation so the defense doesn’t know. The former would be preferable, but he’s got to show he’s at least a threat to pull it and get a few yards. With 1 loss already, can’t afford to protect him at the expense of being predictable. Lose another game and the season’s basically over anyway.
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That's the problem with our run scheme, and has been under BK, even when we had Daniels. Too much shotgun telegraphing our plays and not enough variance.
Carter mentioned that too. Running out of the shotgun, the back is on 1 side of the QB and it’s easy to know which way he’s going. Thinks we should go more pistol with the RB lined up directly behind Nuss. That could help. Should probably go under center some too, but if we won’t even do that on 3rd or 4th and short, we’re probably not gonna ever really do it.
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