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re: Do the new bats ruin the game of College baseball for anyone else?
Posted on 6/3/13 at 1:18 pm to sicboy
Posted on 6/3/13 at 1:18 pm to sicboy
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It's a little frustrating, but considering safety was one of the big reasons they went to them, I can live with it.
what is so much safer with these new bats? I want to see stats on who was hurt, how, when, and where from a ball that was hit with the old bats. seemed like you never heard anything about it, but then all of the sudden we have crappy bats with little to no "pop"
I miss the "PING!" that you heard whenever the ball was hit, now you get a weak crack almost like a wooden bat.
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Posted on 6/3/13 at 1:21 pm to WackyChris
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what is so much safer with these new bats?
The ball doesn't come off the bat with the same velocity as it did with the older bats.
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I want to see stats on who was hurt, how, when, and where from a ball that was hit with the old bats
What stats do you want? Are you really questioning whether or not pitchers have been hit in the head with line drives?
Using these "safer" bats doesn't mean pitchers won't get hit, they are hoping that the pitchers won't get hit with a ball travelling quite as fast as it used to.
Posted on 6/3/13 at 1:31 pm to PurpleAndGold86
my point is that you NEVER heard or saw pitchers in the NCAA get hit with line drives. the only real coverage is when MLB pitcher get throttled in the head with a line drive.
why no coverage? especially when the NCAA changed the game as much as they have
why no coverage? especially when the NCAA changed the game as much as they have
Posted on 6/3/13 at 1:34 pm to WackyChris
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why no coverage?
Not sure if this is a serious question? College baseball isn't televised quite as much as pro baseball. When is the last time you saw highlights from a regular season college baseball game on Sportscenter or Baseball Tonight?
Plenty of college pitchers have been hit with ball, just like in the pros. As I just said wood vs college bats doesn't decrease the number of pitchers that are hit in the head. The hope over the years has been that the impact of a pitcher getting hit in the head won't be as harmful as under the previous bats. Those are the stats you should be looking for, not the number of college pitchers that get hit in the head.
Posted on 6/3/13 at 1:42 pm to RogerTheShrubber
The single-A minor league baseball should be used by the NCAA, and bring in the fences a few feet for more homers should solve the scoring problem.
Posted on 6/3/13 at 1:45 pm to PurpleAndGold86
I've previously talked about how the safety argument is all BS... BUT if you really want to go down that road then why stop there? Why not have the pitchers all wear helmets? I'm sure that would be safer. Hell, the NCAA makes the bat girls wear helmets during the post season, which is just about the dumbest shite I've ever heard because they are standing behind a screen while the ball is in play. So, if the NCAA is really that concerned with safety then there are a plethora of other things that should have been done before screwing with the bats. And now I've just circled back to my original argument that the entire "player safety" line from the NCAA is utter BS.
Posted on 6/3/13 at 1:50 pm to SlapahoeTribe
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I've previously talked about how the safety argument is all BS
I never once said anywhere that the bats are any safer. I clearly said that the HOPE is that the impact won't be as harmful when they do get hit.
quote:Not the 4 bat girls that are located down the lines.
because they are standing behind a screen while the ball is in play
quote:Pitchers putting something on their heads that would help with blows to the head is currently being discussed at the MLB level. That doesn't mean they will do it, but there has definitely been discussions about it. Obviously they would have to develop something that is comfortable/feasible for a pitcher to wear while pitching.
Why not have the pitchers all wear helmets?
Posted on 6/3/13 at 1:51 pm to DollaChoppa
It's not the bats, it's the balls
Posted on 6/3/13 at 1:56 pm to Sheetbend
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and bring in the fences a few feet for more homers should solve the scoring problem.
No, no, no!
First, telling all these programs that can barely afford extra baseballs they need to redesign their parks isn't going to happen. (I've been to games where the bench warmers are sent to the stands, well wooden bleachers, to ask people to give back the foul balls.)
Second, that wouldn't just change things from a hitting perspective, that would dramatically change how the game is fielded. I sure don't want to see that.
Posted on 6/3/13 at 1:58 pm to Moustache
a 5'7" 165lb guy should not hit check swing homeruns
Posted on 6/3/13 at 1:59 pm to WackyChris
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my point is that you NEVER heard or saw pitchers in the NCAA get hit with line drives.
Lloyd Peever disagrees with this
Posted on 6/3/13 at 1:59 pm to RoaringTiger33
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If you've ever batted with wood, it is quite apparent that BBCOR has a lot less pop; wood actually has tremendous pop on the sweet spot. The differences are that the sweet spot is small on wood and anything down towards the hands means a broken bat - not a Texas leaguer or better.
This has nothing to do with safety - that is a myth. This has everything to do with the Augie Garrido's, California schools, and small schools who want to play small ball only. Right now, the majors are averaging just over 1 homerun per game ( 56 games, 57 HRs ) per ESPN. Per NCAA, only 5 teams average over 1 HR per game, with only 34 teams averaging over 0.7 per game. That's out of 298 teams! Considering the talent concentration is going to be with your larger schools, the numbers at the top of the list should be much, much higher.
I agree with a lot in this post. Absolutely true with the wood bats. The sweet spot on a wood bat has plenty of pop. I think it's another way of evening out the playing field and increasing parity and exposure to programs with less fan demand, just like with what the NCAA has tried to do in recent years with the selections. It has made coaching and micro-management in-game become heavily emphasized. It is certainly an Augie Garrido's type game now and I do think it hurts the SEC power-style baseball most of us grew up watching. Power hitters are not much more than fly-ball outs. They add nothing to the roster anymore.
Lots of programs can go find a roster full of slap hitters and coach them up well.
It is a different game now. You HAVE to have supreme defense and speed on the bases. You HAVE to be able to manufacture runs creatively.
It is why you've seen LSU teams get suddenly smaller as well as why you see small ball teams doing so well in this tourney.
Posted on 6/3/13 at 2:25 pm to Moustache
Just go to wood bats and be done with this whole debate.
Posted on 6/3/13 at 2:31 pm to choupiquesushi
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a 5'7" 165lb guy should not hit check swing homeruns
a 5'7 165 lb guy shouldn't be playing major college baseball most of the time. Small guys tend to be the rule instead of the exception now.
Posted on 6/3/13 at 2:32 pm to Moustache
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a 5'7 165 lb guy shouldn't be playing major college baseball most of the time
Wow, somehow you managed to surpass your previous prize for dumbest post of the day. This easily takes the cake - and you have had some gems today.
Posted on 6/3/13 at 2:49 pm to Moustache
Lsu has had plenty of smaller guys playing, including in 2009
Posted on 6/3/13 at 2:57 pm to PurpleAndGold86
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Wow, somehow you managed to surpass your previous prize for dumbest post of the day. This easily takes the cake - and you have had some gems today.
Ddin't say they couldn't play, just that they should be the exception and not the rule.
How many small MLB players who are good can you name? Jose Altuve, etc. Just saying that 5'7 guys used to not even get a look at baseball until these bats.
Posted on 6/3/13 at 2:57 pm to TheDoc
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The 2009 bats were perfect
Posted on 6/3/13 at 3:12 pm to Moustache
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how many small MLBers can you name
Hall of famer Yogi Berra was 5' 7"
Posted on 6/3/13 at 3:13 pm to PurpleAndGold86
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Lowering the seams isn't going to be this drastic of a change that pitchers are all of the sudden going to be throwing the ball over the backstop and unable to locate. They just won't see as much action on their breaking stuff.
That's a huge change.
The right answer is to adjust the bats...not make a change to compensate for the bats while having another impact on pitching.
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