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re: Do the new bats ruin the game of College baseball for anyone else?
Posted on 6/4/13 at 8:53 am to choupiquesushi
Posted on 6/4/13 at 8:53 am to choupiquesushi
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that argument left the building when bats crossed the $250 thresh hold.. .and became more fragile..ie losing pop with end cap problems..
Ummm, no. Most MLB bats are made of white ash. It is pretty universally agreed that the supply of quality wood would be overrun if the NCAA and high schools went to wood bats. Wooden bats simply are not feasible.
Go to the MLB ball. What pitcher lose in movement they gain in velocity. Pretty simple solution IMO.
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Posted on 6/4/13 at 9:41 am to Moustache
Its def a bad brand of baseball. Its like watching SWAC Football..............
Posted on 6/4/13 at 9:56 am to choupiquesushi
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Had he not been hurt - bregman that is... he would have been drafted in the first round... and never shown up here to wear purple and gold... him being here has very little to do with CBA....
You obviously have no clue what you're talking about.
Bregman may have been drafted in the top 5 rounds, but definitely not round 1 for two reasons.
1. Position----he won't play SS in the majors due to lack of range. He won't move to 3B because his bat doesn't profile well there (MLB teams want more power from 3b than what Bregs has). He will have to be a 2B, and 2B are not drafted in the first fricking round.
2. Size----lacks ideal size/speed combo. Great hitter, but lack of size indicates a lower ceiling. That combined with his positional deficiencies is the reason he wouldn't be a first rounder regardless of injury.
Oh, the CBA has a lot to do with why some team didn't take a flyer on him and draft him in the 5th or 6th round and pay him above-slot. It's because the money is more scarce to do that, so teams are not taking chances on guys with strong college commitments or injuries.
Think about it. If it's common knowledge the guy is a first rounder if he didn't get injured, why the frick would a team not take him in the 2nd or 3rd round and offer him more money? Not too many first round talents found in the 3rd round in MLB. That alone makes your logic retarded.
Posted on 6/4/13 at 9:59 am to redfish99
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Its def a bad brand of baseball. Its like watching SWAC Football..............
I mean, I still watch it because it's LSU baseball, but the extra base hits are non existent and people are getting excited over seeing eye singles and errors.
i liken it more to the WNBA of the baseball world.
Posted on 6/4/13 at 10:11 am to Moustache
...yeah , fo' sure ... new bats suck ..and zillions of 2-1 , 3-2 types games also suck .. 
Posted on 6/4/13 at 10:26 am to Moustache
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You obviously have no clue what you're talking about.
Coming from you. quote:
He will have to be a 2B, and 2B are not drafted in the first fricking round.
So stupid and wrong - like always.
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Great hitter, but lack of size indicates a lower ceiling.
God you seem to get dumber with every post.
As always your posts are completely clueless and ignorant, but always worth reading for a really good laugh. Hats off to you, Moustache.
Posted on 6/4/13 at 12:10 pm to Moustache
Dude, Bregman has plenty of range at ss and he displays decent power at the plate.
Lets not forget he is still just a FRESHMAN!
Lets not forget he is still just a FRESHMAN!
Posted on 6/4/13 at 12:31 pm to PurpleAndGold86
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So stupid and wrong - like always.
Most of the time a 2B out of HS is not drafted in the 1st round. That is an indisputable fact. Teams may draft a guy they think can play SS or another position and he end up at 2B, but teams don't draft a guy who they consider a 2B.
that's not to say Bregman won't get into the 1st round a la Aaron Hill when he graduates, but I can guarantee you this guy isn't a big league SS and doesn't have the power to profile at 2B. He is more a Pedroia and Aaron Hill type player, which is great.
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God you seem to get dumber with every post.
Size does indicate a lower ceiling with regards to power, which is what the context of my post was adn the reason Bregman probably won't play 3B in the big leagues.
Sorry you don't understand the game of baseball, bro.
Posted on 6/4/13 at 12:33 pm to upgrade
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Bregman has plenty of range at ss and he displays decent power at the plate.
He does show decent power and will probably have more, but at a BIG LEAGUE level (not college) he will not be a power hitter. He's more a Pedroia/Aaron Hill guy.
As far as him staying at SS, HIGHLY doubtful.
Actually many thought him to possibly be a catcher, but it looks like MLB teams KNOW he is a 2B. They may try him at SS in low A, but it's pretty much a given that he moves positions. I think you guys underestimate how hard it is for a player to be good enough to play SS in the majors.
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Posted on 6/4/13 at 12:34 pm to PurpleAndGold86
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So stupid and wrong - like always.
also, please name the last high schooler that MLB teams drafted as a 2nd basemen in the 1st round.
I'll wait.
This post was edited on 6/4/13 at 12:35 pm
Posted on 6/6/13 at 8:50 am to Moustache
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You obviously have no clue what you're talking about.
ok, how many scouts, MILB coaches and ncaa coaches are you on a first name basis with?
Posted on 6/6/13 at 8:51 am to slackster
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that argument left the building when bats crossed the $250 thresh hold.. .and became more fragile..ie losing pop with end cap problems..
Ummm, no. Most MLB bats are made of white ash. It is pretty universally agreed that the supply of quality wood would be overrun if the NCAA and high schools went to wood bats. Wooden bats simply are not feasible.
Go to the MLB ball. What pitcher lose in movement they gain in velocity. Pretty simple solution IMO.
for NCAA purposes... they don't need white ash.... ask anyone in the wood bat business nowadays and every day there is a new one.. even here locally there is a new one...
Posted on 6/6/13 at 8:53 am to Moustache
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also, please name the last high schooler that MLB teams drafted as a 2nd basemen in the 1st round.
cavan biggio.. maybe...today
Posted on 6/6/13 at 9:41 am to choupiquesushi
I follow college baseball because of LSU, but the game is not very exciting anymore. I loved it a few years ago because a 5 run lead in the 9th inning wasn't safe because of the potential offensive explosion. THAT'S how baseball needs to be, both on the college and professional levels.
Seeing a pitcher's duel is like watching paint dry. Nothing happens. I'd make changes that the purists would think were radical. Don't just change the ball or bats, how about lowering the pitchers mound and moving it back 5 feet. Also, the game needs to be sped up. Limit the number of times the coach or catcher can visit the mound, no warm up pitches for pitching changes, intentional walks are granted w/o the need for 4 actual pitches, etc. Anything to speed things up and open up the offense.
Seeing a pitcher's duel is like watching paint dry. Nothing happens. I'd make changes that the purists would think were radical. Don't just change the ball or bats, how about lowering the pitchers mound and moving it back 5 feet. Also, the game needs to be sped up. Limit the number of times the coach or catcher can visit the mound, no warm up pitches for pitching changes, intentional walks are granted w/o the need for 4 actual pitches, etc. Anything to speed things up and open up the offense.
Posted on 6/6/13 at 2:28 pm to atltiger6487
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atltiger6487
Are you the same guy who said that Cam Cameron would never ever come to LSU?
Posted on 6/6/13 at 3:04 pm to atltiger6487
Guess what bro, baseball isn't supposed to be nonstop action.
If you don't like the game go watch soccer or basketball.
All I want is either the pro ball or the 2010 bats and I think the college game would be right.
If you don't like the game go watch soccer or basketball.
All I want is either the pro ball or the 2010 bats and I think the college game would be right.
Posted on 6/6/13 at 3:07 pm to upgrade
How about slow pitch softball if all you want to see is home runs?
Posted on 6/6/13 at 3:11 pm to 777Tiger
It won't be home run derby with the 2010 bats or the pro ball.
Use one but not both.
I DO appreciate good pitchers duels but bring back just that little hint of gorilla ball.
Use one but not both.
I DO appreciate good pitchers duels but bring back just that little hint of gorilla ball.
Posted on 6/6/13 at 3:25 pm to upgrade
having played at LSU during the transition from wood to aluminum, and right before the Skip era, there is something to be said for the bats about putting asses in the seats, the first pipes were very iffy, and you had to go through a bunch to find one with a sweet spot, once the manufacturers got that figured out, voila! gorilla ball, pop flies became towering homers, what once were routine line drive singles made it through gaps, to the wall on one or two hops, they had a lot to do with getting us to where we are now
This post was edited on 6/6/13 at 3:40 pm
Posted on 6/6/13 at 3:33 pm to atltiger6487
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eeing a pitcher's duel is like watching paint dry. Nothing happens. I'd make changes that the purists would think were radical. Don't just change the ball or bats, how about lowering the pitchers mound and moving it back 5 feet. Also, the game needs to be sped up. Limit the number of times the coach or catcher can visit the mound, no warm up pitches for pitching changes, intentional walks are granted w/o the need for 4 actual pitches, etc. Anything to speed things up and open up the offense.
the hell you say
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