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re: Do the new bats ruin the game of College baseball for anyone else?

Posted on 6/3/13 at 10:14 am to
Posted by offshoretrash
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Posted on 6/3/13 at 10:14 am to
I think the long term affects will be less power hitters in MLB because colleges will be recruiting smaller faster players who hit for average not power and can steal bases. This is one of the smallest LSU teams I can remember.

There are several programs set up this way. Stoney Brook beat us by using this tactic.
Posted by PurpleAndGold86
Member since Jun 2012
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Posted on 6/3/13 at 10:16 am to
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We had 73 homeruns this year...

FIFY

Your season is over.
Posted by tigerskin
Member since Nov 2004
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Posted on 6/3/13 at 10:25 am to
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There are several programs set up this way. Stoney Brook beat us by using this tactic.


Yes, and that is why we will sacrifice an under 200 batting average for a center fielder that can go catch everything. It works. You have to adjust to the times.
Posted by ForeLSU
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Posted on 6/3/13 at 10:32 am to
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I think the long term affects will be less power hitters in MLB because colleges will be recruiting smaller faster players who hit for average not power and can steal bases


Is MLB relying on college baseball for power hitters??
Posted by Moustache
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Member since May 2008
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Posted on 6/3/13 at 10:35 am to
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MLB averages just barely over 1 homer a game.


bull fricking shite.

Last year they averaged just a bit over 2 I believe, not including the playoffs/WS.

In 2011, the average was around 1.87, so almost 2 per game.

Besides, it's not just the HRs. What about the damn doubles in the gap that go to the wall. When's the last time you saw that happen in a college game? That happens at least 4 or 5 times a game in the pros.
This post was edited on 6/3/13 at 10:36 am
Posted by BIG Texan
Texas
Member since Jun 2012
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Posted on 6/3/13 at 10:37 am to
Not for me , they seem more like wood bats of MLB and I heard some scouts say it is easier to judge true power. Now that the juice is gone, allegedly, they don't hit them like they did in MLB either.

Posted by Moustache
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Posted on 6/3/13 at 10:39 am to
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Not for me , they seem more like wood bats of MLB and I heard some scouts say it is easier to judge true power.


this is true. But, it's also harder to judge true pitching too. A guy like Ryan Eades has an ERA under 3.
Posted by tigerskin
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Posted on 6/3/13 at 10:46 am to
On the flipside, can't you appreciate getting to watch a centerfielder cover a large part of the field making great plays as opposed to a bunch of fat outfielders just watching the ball sail over their head?
Posted by Moustache
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Posted on 6/3/13 at 10:56 am to
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On the flipside, can't you appreciate getting to watch a centerfielder cover a large part of the field making great plays as opposed to a bunch of fat outfielders just watching the ball sail over their head?


Of course I can appreciate that. What's hard to appreciate is watching 5'7 160 lb guys struggle to lift the ball out of the IF.
Posted by vjp819
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Posted on 6/3/13 at 12:08 pm to
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I don't get the safety reason. Were people getting knocked out?



it seems as though a batter has a better chance of being injured by a 95+ mph fast ball that gets away from the pitcher, then it does a pitcher getting hit by a batted ball. So why don't they make the pitchers throw about 60mph??? For safety reasons of course.
Posted by ProjectP2294
West St. Louis County
Member since May 2007
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Posted on 6/3/13 at 12:11 pm to
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I heard some scouts say it is easier to judge true power.

I honestly don't give two shits about what makes a scouts job easier.

And I don't a gree with people saying we need to switch to the juiced minor league ball. HOw about we bring the bats back up to better than wood and keep the same ball.

These are not professional players, why make them use the same equiptment? Using a minor league ball will lead to an immediate downturn in the quality of pitching. Why keep making everyone worse? Bring the extra base hit back to college baseball.
Posted by PurpleAndGold86
Member since Jun 2012
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Posted on 6/3/13 at 12:14 pm to
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juiced minor league ball


Juiced?
It's wound tighter and the seams are lower.

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HOw about we bring the bats back up to better than wood and keep the same ball.

I think the change in the ball might be just a little more cost effective.
This post was edited on 6/3/13 at 12:15 pm
Posted by ProjectP2294
West St. Louis County
Member since May 2007
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Posted on 6/3/13 at 12:16 pm to
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Juiced?

Yes, because:
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It's wound tighter


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I think the change in the ball might be just a little more cost effective.

And it will lead to even worse quality of play because
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the seams are lower.
Posted by upgrade
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 6/3/13 at 12:18 pm to
Using the current bats and the minor league ball seems to be the best compromise for the college game to me.
The lower seams will also let the ball carry farther.
Posted by PurpleAndGold86
Member since Jun 2012
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Posted on 6/3/13 at 12:20 pm to
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And it will lead to even worse quality of play because

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the seams are lower.

How exactly does that lead to a worse quality of play?

You are suggesting that it would lead to an increase in the quality of offense so that is contradictory.
This post was edited on 6/3/13 at 12:21 pm
Posted by ProjectP2294
West St. Louis County
Member since May 2007
79175 posts
Posted on 6/3/13 at 12:20 pm to
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Using the current bats and the minor league ball seems to be the best compromise for the college game to me

It's definitely the best way to continue to compromise the quality of the college game.
Posted by ProjectP2294
West St. Louis County
Member since May 2007
79175 posts
Posted on 6/3/13 at 12:21 pm to
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How exactly does that lead to a worse quality of play?


The effect on the pitchers.
Posted by upgrade
Member since Jul 2011
15099 posts
Posted on 6/3/13 at 12:22 pm to
I don't buy the myth that the bats hit worse than wood.
I'm sure they hit better or there would be players using wood.
Posted by ProjectP2294
West St. Louis County
Member since May 2007
79175 posts
Posted on 6/3/13 at 12:23 pm to
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You are suggesting that it would lead to an increase in the quality of offense so that is contradictory.

No. I'm not.
Posted by PurpleAndGold86
Member since Jun 2012
11036 posts
Posted on 6/3/13 at 12:24 pm to
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The effect on the pitchers.

And so bringing back "juiced" bats to provide more extra base hits and power to the game wouldn't make pitchers less effective?
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