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re: Do the new bats ruin the game of College baseball for anyone else?
Posted on 6/17/13 at 6:27 am to Moustache
Posted on 6/17/13 at 6:27 am to Moustache
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Had he not been hurt - bregman that is... he would have been drafted in the first round... and never shown up here to wear purple and gold... him being here has very little to do with CBA....
You obviously have no clue what you're talking about.
Bregman may have been drafted in the top 5 rounds, but definitely not round 1 for two reasons.
1. Position----he won't play SS in the majors due to lack of range. He won't move to 3B because his bat doesn't profile well there (MLB teams want more power from 3b than what Bregs has). He will have to be a 2B, and 2B are not drafted in the first fricking round.
2. Size----lacks ideal size/speed combo. Great hitter, but lack of size indicates a lower ceiling. That combined with his positional deficiencies is the reason he wouldn't be a first rounder regardless of injury.
Oh, the CBA has a lot to do with why some team didn't take a flyer on him and draft him in the 5th or 6th round and pay him above-slot. It's because the money is more scarce to do that, so teams are not taking chances on guys with strong college commitments or injuries.
Think about it. If it's common knowledge the guy is a first rounder if he didn't get injured, why the frick would a team not take him in the 2nd or 3rd round and offer him more money? Not too many first round talents found in the 3rd round in MLB. That alone makes your logic retarded.
yeah... I don't know what I am talking about.. neither do the 4 announcers from yesterdays games who repeatedly said that bregman would have been a HIGH first rounder had he not been hurt....send me your contact info - so I can get it to ESPN - maybe they can use you... and Kyle and Orel do know college baseball so don't even go there...
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Posted on 6/17/13 at 6:34 am to Moustache
I still love baseball but it hurt it for sure
Posted on 6/17/13 at 6:51 am to Moustache
The BATS affect the game, but this new stadium for the CWS has created "boring baseball". "Small" ball teams will definitely benefit the most. Baseball was losing audience because of boredom...we are heading back in that direction. I understand that not every hit should be a "home run", but CWS has pretty much eliminated HRs from the CWS.
Lots of MILLIONS spent for a new stadium to create a more boring game.
Lots of MILLIONS spent for a new stadium to create a more boring game.
Posted on 6/17/13 at 6:57 am to rbdallas
its not the stadium's fault that all our hitters decided they wanted to be heroes and swing for the fences when they have zero chance of hitting it out. Once Katz hit it out, they all thought it was home run derby. Lots of moral victory warning track home runs.
Posted on 6/17/13 at 7:02 am to Moustache
Do you really think gapers don't happen in college baseball any more or hits over people's head. go watch the NCstate UNC game there where a handful of doubles in that game don't remember if there was a gaper. MSU OSU game a gaper won it.
These bats suck but you are exaggerating how bad they truly are.
go watch the NCstate UNC game there where a handful of doubles in that game don't remember if there was a gaper. MSU OSU game a gaper won it. These bats suck but you are exaggerating how bad they truly are.
Posted on 6/17/13 at 7:03 am to rbdallas
The MSU OSU game I watched was very entertaining
Posted on 6/17/13 at 8:02 am to Moustache
Yes
Posted on 6/17/13 at 12:04 pm to catholictigerfan
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Do you really think gapers don't happen in college baseball any more or hits over people's head. go watch the NCstate UNC game there where a handful of doubles in that game don't remember if there was a gaper. MSU OSU game a gaper won it.
These bats suck but you are exaggerating how bad they truly are.
There have been a few doubles on shots down the lines and some gappers. Rea hit a gapper for MSU for the final margin. That said, in the new stadium it is telling that not a single HR has been hit to CF since it opened, and the only homers being hit are in dead pull areas in LF and RF. That shot Katz hit out was almost a liner compared to Ibarra's two that had higher trajectory. All three were very well hit, but I dislike a field that massively rewards pitchers for making mediocre pitches to the detriment of the game, definitely needs more balance. That plus some wind blowing in and it sucks to be a power hitter.
The announcers said during the MSU/OSU game that Rea was mashing balls into the LF bleachers before their first game and he is not what would be considered a guy that hits a lot of HRs and his stats back it up although he is a huge dude.
Posted on 6/17/13 at 12:11 pm to tirebiter
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but I dislike a field that massively rewards pitchers for making mediocre pitches to the detriment of the game
This! When have you ever seen a pitcher get away with pitching high in the zone. This is something taught from LL on up. But because the bats and big ball park the pitcher can pitch high all day because those HRs hit balls became fly ball outs. IF LSU loses I won't watch any more of this.
Posted on 6/17/13 at 12:11 pm to Moustache
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You obviously have no clue what you're talking about.
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1. Position----he won't play SS in the majors due to lack of range. He won't move to 3B because his bat doesn't profile well there (MLB teams want more power from 3b than what Bregs has). He will have to be a 2B, and 2B are not drafted in the first fricking round.
2. Size----lacks ideal size/speed combo. Great hitter, but lack of size indicates a lower ceiling. That combined with his positional deficiencies is the reason he wouldn't be a first rounder regardless of injury.
Mike Fontenot, 2B, LSU - drafted #19 in the 1st round by the Orioles and that is just the first one that pops to mind. Bregman vs Dan Uggla @ 2B, mmm, if Bregs can develop a little more power that could become an interesting scenario one day. Transitioning from catcher to SS I believe Bregs glove in the field has a lot more upside ahead of him.
Posted on 6/17/13 at 12:14 pm to Papa Tigah
They'll make changes in the balls which will help.
Posted on 6/17/13 at 12:17 pm to Moustache
Yes. It makes the game even less excited.
I like sports where the crowd gets into it more. College baseball has become close to a golf crowd, it's gotten pretty quiet.
I think this is why the media (espn specifically) doesn't spend much time at all covering college baseball. It's too quiet and boring. Few people gaf anymore.
I like sports where the crowd gets into it more. College baseball has become close to a golf crowd, it's gotten pretty quiet.
I think this is why the media (espn specifically) doesn't spend much time at all covering college baseball. It's too quiet and boring. Few people gaf anymore.
This post was edited on 6/17/13 at 12:19 pm
Posted on 6/17/13 at 12:23 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Keep the ball and go back to the 09 bats IMO.
Baseball with the new bats is boring to watch.
Dinky hit, sac bunt, steal or try to force an error to get the run in. So predictable and so boring. The long ball makes the game enjoyable.
Baseball with the new bats is boring to watch.
Dinky hit, sac bunt, steal or try to force an error to get the run in. So predictable and so boring. The long ball makes the game enjoyable.
Posted on 6/17/13 at 12:23 pm to sicboy
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Are these new bats supposed to be the equivalent to wooden bats?
Yes, but they still give you the handle hit without splintering.
Posted on 6/17/13 at 12:25 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Keep the ball and go back to the 09 bats IMO.
New bats do mimic wooden bats, but the ball has more drag than the pro ball. Combination makes it really bad.
Changing the ball, LSU would have had a couple more homers last night on those long pop ups.
Posted on 6/17/13 at 12:30 pm to LockdownDefense
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I think this is why the media (espn specifically) doesn't spend much time at all covering college baseball. It's too quiet and boring. Few people gaf anymore.
College baseball gets more coverage today than it ever has. Hell, I remember when some of the LSU games in Omaha weren't even broadcasted live.
While I loved gorilla ball b/c we won titles with it, it was not a fair test. No pop-up should ever fly out of the park. They had to reign in those bats. Have they gone too far the other way? Probably, but 5-4 games with good pitching and defense is more exciting to me than 21-17 games. Certainly the casual fans didn't enjoy the 4+ hours of baseball in those days.
Hopefully, they can bring a little more balance to the game. Maybe changing the ball will do the trick.
Posted on 6/17/13 at 12:39 pm to RogerTheShrubber
I'd rather up the batting to the pitching rather than lower the pitching to the batting. Just my opinion.
Posted on 6/18/13 at 8:16 am to JustSmokin
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Hell, I remember when some of the LSU games in Omaha weren't even broadcasted live.
I cannot ever remember a single game from Omaha, not being broadcast live? going all they way back to 1979....
I vaguely remember 1 or 2 games being delayed due to equipment problems there....
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