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re: Disingenuous to say "Nick Saban took xyz years, give Lane time"
Posted on 11/10/26 at 1:16 pm to The Eric
Posted on 11/10/26 at 1:16 pm to The Eric
Portal is great and will be important, but i really do feel you still need kids that has been in your system and culture for years and supplement that with portal depth.
I dont know how that is gonna work bringing in mass amounts of mercenaries every year and assume they will adapt to everything during one season. Thats why im giving Lane time man, the framework the foundation of this program hasn't been set yet. The important part is having the younger kids stick with the team and not run to the portal.
I dont know how that is gonna work bringing in mass amounts of mercenaries every year and assume they will adapt to everything during one season. Thats why im giving Lane time man, the framework the foundation of this program hasn't been set yet. The important part is having the younger kids stick with the team and not run to the portal.
Posted on 11/10/26 at 1:18 pm to Jj3077
quote:Kiffin was hired November 30, 2025.
Disingenuous to say "Nick Saban took xyz years, give Lane time"
National Signing Day was December 3, 2025.
The portal opened on January 2, 2026, and closed on January 16, 2026.
I'm going to give Kiffin more than six weeks to put a team together.
Posted on 11/10/26 at 1:18 pm to Jj3077
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Disingenuous to say "Nick Saban took xyz years, give Lane time"
You made two mistakes there. The first is that it does take time. No team has ever done what you imply could have been done. And don’t say “Indiana”. They didn’t do it in one year either; they were 11-2 the year before.
Maybe some team eventually will, which means it is possible, but it’s just extremely unlikely.
The second mistake is your use of the word “disingenuous”, which means those who are taking the approach that the first year is too soon, are actually lying. I doubt that’s what you meant. I assume you meant we are wrong, not dishonest. If you meant we are disingenuous then you are wrong there anyway.
This post was edited on 11/10/26 at 1:20 pm
Posted on 11/10/26 at 1:23 pm to Jj3077
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This team does not exist next year, it will be a completely different team
Untrue.
There will be a lot of turnover, but it’s not a new team every year. And if the one time transfer rule comes into play, that will be another big change.
Stop thinking in absolutes. Obviously the opportunity for quicker turnaround exists, but it’s not like you mention.
Teams will mostly pay to keep their key people. Look at the very team in the league for examples.
Posted on 11/10/26 at 1:31 pm to Jj3077
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The expectation is to make the playoffs at a minimum every year,
good chance that OSU, Oregon, Texas won't make the playoff this year. All had much more stability in their program than LSU...yes we all have the expectation to make the playoffs...just saying things happen
Posted on 11/10/26 at 1:33 pm to WaterLink
The entitlement mentality on here is so ridiculous. They had to go majority portal due to the circumstances. He didn't get his offensive staff until OM lost in the semifinals. They had injuries to very key players before and during the season and their starting QB was coming off surgery, hadn't played in a year and didn't have spring to work with an entire new receiving corp, Oline and new system and coaches.. Some of you know nothing about football. So yeah he gets some slack this year. Will see how they finish but I expect more next year especially with a 2nd year QB getting an entire off season to work wit the team and coaches.
Posted on 11/10/26 at 1:38 pm to mcspufftiger7
Its ridiculous dude. Im giving this dude Kiffin more than a year to establish everything he needs to for long term success. Not just a flash in the pan season like it has been the last ohhhhh 20 plus years?
I know this is the most impatient fanbase in sports but give the man more than a year please.
I know this is the most impatient fanbase in sports but give the man more than a year please.
Posted on 11/10/26 at 1:39 pm to southsidedell
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Some of yall are some impatient motherfrickers i swear
Yep. It’s not just football either. Americans want instant gratification.
Posted on 11/10/26 at 1:45 pm to Walt OReilly
Ill agree to that. But man im trying to be a more patient man with this sports stuff. At the end of the day its just a game. A ridiculously overpriced game lol but just a game.
Posted on 11/10/26 at 1:50 pm to Jj3077
Man you guys are completely ignorant to some things. Why do you forget so quickly they slapped this roster together on 3 weeks of evaluations with no full time coach helping Lane? If I'm being honest here, while this roster has a lot of mediocre, it's actually quite amazing he was able to put what he did together.
Don't bring this "50 million" number up. That's a shortsighted way to look at.
1.) almost the entire roster was gutted so those player's salaries went back into the pool
2.) rebuild is going to be more costly because players know you're spending and you're a doormat program right now so you have to overpay
This is not the norm. It's not even going to be similar next season just for the fact we're not rebuilding. Give him time. If this happens again next year, then by all means you have every reason to complain.
Don't bring this "50 million" number up. That's a shortsighted way to look at.
1.) almost the entire roster was gutted so those player's salaries went back into the pool
2.) rebuild is going to be more costly because players know you're spending and you're a doormat program right now so you have to overpay
This is not the norm. It's not even going to be similar next season just for the fact we're not rebuilding. Give him time. If this happens again next year, then by all means you have every reason to complain.
This post was edited on 11/10/26 at 1:51 pm
Posted on 11/10/26 at 1:57 pm to Jj3077
So you just change jobs and automatically have all your shite in one place? No dumbass. It does take time. Sure different team but damn. Give him time to get his fkn feet wet. Unrealistic mthfkr
This post was edited on 11/10/26 at 1:58 pm
Posted on 11/10/26 at 1:59 pm to Jj3077
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There's quite literally no time.
I don't think people know what "literally" literally means... literally
Posted on 11/10/26 at 2:06 pm to Jj3077
Can’t believe this post is being downvoted! We will literally have a new team every year with NIL. There’s no “rebuilding” only a new draft every year. Next year’s team will be 80% new players, and ‘28 the same on into infinity or until changes are made. It’s how well you can coach new mercenaries each year that matters. You can choose to delusional and nostalgic but you’re setting yourself up for an annual letdown.
Posted on 11/10/26 at 2:09 pm to Jj3077
The "No Chest" crowd is out in force this week.
It could be a lot worse if our Administration didn't have big balls and fired Woodeard and Kelly.
Give Lane some time. Forget about the 40 million dollars B.S.
It could be a lot worse if our Administration didn't have big balls and fired Woodeard and Kelly.
Give Lane some time. Forget about the 40 million dollars B.S.
Posted on 11/10/26 at 2:15 pm to Jj3077
It's not a valid comparison for many and IMHO obvious reasons.
Posted on 11/10/26 at 2:33 pm to Jj3077
Disingenuous to say
This is an example of what is disingenuous because it's not true. Stable programs are not turning over 50+ players on their roster every year.
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There is no time. There's quite literally no time
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Each team year after year is so materially different due to NIL and transfers
This is an example of what is disingenuous because it's not true. Stable programs are not turning over 50+ players on their roster every year.
Posted on 11/10/26 at 2:37 pm to LSUZombie
The turnover won’t be as drastic as this year,meaning less inconsistency and more confidence.That is what this team lacks.
Posted on 11/10/26 at 2:39 pm to Jj3077
We will beat Texas by 14. Hope you delete this then.
Posted on 11/10/26 at 2:40 pm to Jj3077
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That's why the expectation is and rightfully so is to start winning from year 1. Back in the day when Nick Saban had the same guys for 6 years and they had no hope of making money or getting into the NFL if they didn't get their act together, sure, give that time. But leavitt and the like are getting paid 5 million THIS YEAR. No one is saying lane should be fired. But the expectation is to win, and yes, right out the gate. No excuses with Texas, just figure it out
That's almost, but not quite, rational.
Stability and continuity of the core of a team still matters. I asked google for a summary of roster turnover for LSU and to compare it to Bama & UGA. Here is what it states:
LSU:
~35 lost to portal
~30 gained through portal
Note: High volatility (forced complete rebuild/retooling under Kiffin)
Bama:
23 lost
20 gained
note: Moderate (yearly talent churn, managed via elite depth)
UGA:
17 lost
9 gained
note: High stability (minimal portal reliance, system continuity)
So, yes, everyone leans on the portal, but the more a given program's system is effectively in place and stable enough to encourage player retention (if you're an elite program with upside), the less you need to lean on the portal.
Kiffin was never going to get everyone he wanted when top programs are bidding for the same players. He still did a great job with the limited time he had to work with and with the available players. It was always going to be a huge rebuild project.
The $40M - $50M price tag fooled some into thinking they "should be" contenders, but it was always going to be a gamble as to which players would step up in a new environment and system and how quickly the team would gel. All things considered, LSU admin, Kiffin & his staff, etc. have done a good job. It just sucks that it cost this much money to jump start the program under Kiffin.
Posted on 11/10/26 at 2:52 pm to Jj3077
I think your confusing football with basketball in terms of how quickly a rebuild can occur.
ESPECIALLY in the SEC.
ESPECIALLY in the SEC.

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