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Disingenuous to say "Nick Saban took xyz years, give Lane time"

Posted on 11/10/26 at 12:44 pm
Posted by Jj3077
Member since Nov 2026
3 posts
Posted on 11/10/26 at 12:44 pm
There is no time. There's quite literally no time. Each team year after year is so materially different due to NIL and transfers that THIS TEAM, THIS YEAR, has one shot. This team does not exist next year, it will be a completely different team. That's why the expectation is and rightfully so is to start winning from year 1. Back in the day when Nick Saban had the same guys for 6 years and they had no hope of making money or getting into the NFL if they didn't get their act together, sure, give that time. But leavitt and the like are getting paid 5 million THIS YEAR. No one is saying lane should be fired. But the expectation is to win, and yes, right out the gate. No excuses with Texas, just figure it out
This post was edited on 11/10/26 at 12:50 pm
Posted by Hold That Tiger 10
Bawcomville
Member since Oct 2013
26356 posts
Posted on 11/10/26 at 12:45 pm to
If that is your way of thinking, thats fine. Just prepare to be disappointed most years.

Winning games in the SEC is no easy task, no matter how much some of you struggle to comprehend this.

Sure there is some truth to your post, that teams change more yearly than they previously did. However the overhaul Kiffin had to make this year should not be the norm. There is still an ability to bringing in multi year guys (which he did) and building a somewhat consistent roster.
This post was edited on 11/10/26 at 12:48 pm
Posted by SmackDaniels
Gulf Breeze, FL
Member since Mar 2007
15646 posts
Posted on 11/10/26 at 12:47 pm to
It's the same as Deboer having the same record as Saban at this time in his career.

Saban was handed keys to an F150 and Deboer was handed keys to a Bugatti.
Posted by Kool Kaliper
Mansfield, TX
Member since Nov 2018
4111 posts
Posted on 11/10/26 at 12:47 pm to
If LSU hired Coach Sheppard, would you be willing to give him time? Hell nah..
Posted by TheSearch
Mediocrity, LA
Member since Jan 2018
427 posts
Posted on 11/10/26 at 12:48 pm to
Ok.

Get started on your “Fire Lane” poster.

I’ll get your crayons.
Posted by Aforem7
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2019
1193 posts
Posted on 11/10/26 at 12:50 pm to
Well yeah no shite, each team is only there for that single year. When people say to give Lane time they mean from an entire program standpoint. You brought in an enormous amount of transfers in year 1. The odds of hitting on every single guy and filling in every single hole that the roster had was unlikely. We are still weak at offesnive line. We missed on some WR additions. There are depth problems on the defensive side. But Kiffin has also done a pretty good job at player retention so the goal is year after year you take less in the portal and focus on keeping guys in the program from HS. Its how Georgia is doing it, its how Ohio st is doing it, its how Bama is still doing it for the most part.
Posted by Sofaking2
Member since Apr 2023
23453 posts
Posted on 11/10/26 at 12:52 pm to
You are free to do whatever you want, but I am cutting Lane some slack this season. Next year is a different story though.
Posted by cajuntiger1010
Member since Jan 2015
15740 posts
Posted on 11/10/26 at 12:56 pm to
We are 80% there.

We just need to change our 4th quarter mindset. Every team goes through this with a new coach.

Don’t give me Chesney or Cignetti either, those guys play a high school schedule their first year
Posted by Jj3077
Member since Nov 2026
3 posts
Posted on 11/10/26 at 12:57 pm to
I'll believe it when I see it with respect to Texas and Tennessee. These games will tell us everything, I suspect.
Posted by southsidedell
Tucson, AZ
Member since Dec 2016
5904 posts
Posted on 11/10/26 at 12:59 pm to
Im giving the dude more than 6 fricking months to get depth and offensive line players. Some of yall are some impatient motherfrickers i swear. Its year fricking one. Its year one in a college football landscape where talent is spread out more than any point in history. Dude didnt have the depth he needed and yall KNEW THIS shite.

Quit being the babies that college football already thinks you are. Chill out and give it just a little more time. Jesus H.
Posted by 0
Member since Aug 2011
18479 posts
Posted on 11/10/26 at 1:00 pm to
quote:

But leavitt and the like are getting paid 5 million


Leavitt was also hurt for most of the offseason and did not participate in practice until the summer. LSU had to overpay to get him because he was the best available. LSU also had to recruit a near completely new 2 deep offense across the board while also adding pieces to the defense. Next season the OL and LB will need numbers in the portal but it should not be near the fire sale it was this season. The hope going forward is that the core of the team will be here already and the portal will be there to add depth / talent but not look for 15 + immediate starters.

Posted by JimTiger72
LA
Member since Jun 2023
21176 posts
Posted on 11/10/26 at 1:03 pm to
Why is there no time?

Last time I checked they are going to a 24 team playoff next year & the natty is in New Orleans on 1/24/28

I don’t get the sense of urgency this year but next year is our year with a favorable schedule
Posted by BiggaGeauxrilla
North Louisiana
Member since Dec 2017
4297 posts
Posted on 11/10/26 at 1:04 pm to
You can say that and in theory its true but just about every team that brought in 35 plus transfers in the top 50 portal rankings have struggled alot more than LSU. Penn st, Arkansas, Auburn, Oklahoma state, Colorado, Ucla, The teams ranked in top 50 portal class with fewer than 15 portal players Miami, Georgia, Notre Dame, Byu, USC and Utah had(17) are having what would be considered very successful seasons. Which one do you think works? To say you just go in the portal and win a championship and find success isnt how its being done. Yes, they have 3 losses but could very well have 1 or 2. This is a significantly a better football team than they were last year. That team would be 3-6. Thats really the only realistic expectations you can put on a completely rebuilt program.
This post was edited on 11/10/26 at 1:07 pm
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
70364 posts
Posted on 11/10/26 at 1:04 pm to
ok how many coaches have won it all in their first year in the NIL era? There are other teams, without new coaching staffs and far less portal players, that are paying top dollar like LSU that won't win the title this year.
Posted by Jj3077
Member since Nov 2026
3 posts
Posted on 11/10/26 at 1:06 pm to
The expectation is not to win out. The expectation is to make the playoffs at a minimum every year, including this final year of a 12 team playoff. Just make it happen
Posted by The Eric
Member since Sep 2008
25553 posts
Posted on 11/10/26 at 1:08 pm to
I think building expectations in a program are still important.

You can get guys and thats great but at the end of the day you need to have a culture that embraces winning. This is not something LSU has had since 2019. It is something that should be in every part of the program. From the practice field maintenance, to the diets, to the workouts, to the coaching, to the equipment managers, etc...

Yes, the transfer portal makes it easier to make changes, but it should not be the sole thing a program relies on for success... otherwise you are always actively trying to fill every position. You have to have guys in the program that can create not only stability but also depth.

Our biggest hole last year was QB... we got the top one in the portal but he was unable to even practice till the fall.... thats a problem... But he has improved every week, unfortunately growth will many times come through failure.


Guys i expect to return which will make things much smoother next year.

Leavitt, Dilin Jones, Jackson Harris, Malik Elzy, Phillip Wright, Watkins, Tre Brown

That alone should make next year better from an offensive standpoint.

Go spend money on some OL
This post was edited on 11/10/26 at 1:13 pm
Posted by TigerBait2008
Boulder,CO
Member since Jun 2008
42079 posts
Posted on 11/10/26 at 1:08 pm to
Posted by vidtiger23
Member since Feb 2012
10845 posts
Posted on 11/10/26 at 1:10 pm to
quote:

Each team year after year is so materially different due to NIL and transfers that THIS TEAM, THIS YEAR, has one shot

This isn’t remotely true and way over stated. The best teams aren’t doing it 100% from the portal like it’s made out to believe on here.
Posted by yimbeaux
Texas
Member since Nov 2014
2010 posts
Posted on 11/10/26 at 1:15 pm to
quote:

However the overhaul Kiffin had to make this year should not be the norm


see, therein lies the problem. when decide to go all-in with the portal you pretty much have to do the same thing every year.
our portal guys who didn't play a ton this year? gone
our portal guys that are unhappy with how the season went? gone
our portal guys who get a better offer? gone

not to mention what we lose to normal attrition, graduation, nfl, etc. once you decide to be the portal king, you're stuck in that cycle until you're willing to take your lumps to get out. but the problem with that is the university and fan base will not have the patience for it and you'll be gone... so we're stuck replacing over 50% of the roster every year
Posted by WaterLink
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2015
21291 posts
Posted on 11/10/26 at 1:16 pm to
quote:

Each team year after year is so materially different due to NIL and transfers


Yes that's true now but that's always been the case to an extent. How many times did you see an entire starting 22 return even in the old days? You always had players graduating or leaving for the draft that needed to be replaced the next year.

And on that note, yes there will be players leaving but you act like there will be nobody returning and will have to replace an entire starting 22 next year or something. Kiffin's staff places emphasis on retention and target transfers that have multiple years remaining and are likely to stay more than just 1 year. Even in the NIL/transfer portal era Kiffin's staffed managed to improve the roster year over year at Ole Miss to the point his last 2 seasons were his most talented rosters. That was by design. It does take time to stabilize as much as you don't want to hear it but his method of roster construction and year-over-year retention and improvement was as much of a reason he was hired as his offenses. Because BK bled recruits and transfers every year and kept taking 1 year guys and kept us in a never ending treadmill cycle that wasn't sustainable. I much prefer the Kiffin strategy.
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