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re: Daniels per BK...mentioned the word recognition at least 4 times

Posted on 9/8/22 at 9:48 am to
Posted by Damone
FoCo
Member since Aug 2016
32966 posts
Posted on 9/8/22 at 9:48 am to
“Just because he’s an accurate passer and limits turnovers doesn’t mean he’s a good QB!”
Posted by Lou Pai
Member since Dec 2014
29218 posts
Posted on 9/8/22 at 9:49 am to
quote:

don't do this


Ok

But there's definitely a group on here that won't hear any criticism of Daniels or any talk of Nuss in what was supposed to be a close QB competition. And they are delusional about how well Daniels actually played. He was a mixed bag on Sunday for sure and there are still some question marks with him that will hopefully be addressed.
Posted by stephendomalley
alexandria
Member since Dec 2005
6157 posts
Posted on 9/8/22 at 9:50 am to
when the offensive line starts playing together and well, daniels will be a very servicable qb. i just don't ever see him being a great reader of defense, and you either have downfield vision or you don't. there are lots of qb's who lead teams to 9 and 10 win seasons with the skills daniels does have. a few can even win a championship - see Cam Newton, Jameis Winston. problem is i don't know if daniels is in that league, although if we had our defense playing to optimal LSU standards it's possible.

as i said before, Kelly is playing to win as many games as he can this year, and you can't blame him. look at how he has been savaged so far. If the fan base is not going to have any patience, he has to play the odds. as much as i want to see Nuss play, i understand.
Posted by MikeTheTiger71
Member since Dec 2021
3716 posts
Posted on 9/8/22 at 9:55 am to
quote:

In his first game at LSU, Daniels had over a 70% completion percentage. In 43 career games at LSU, Jordan Jefferson managed that feat only five times. But you're right, they're just the same player.


And only one of those games came when he had 20+ attempts. He also never had over 300 total yards, only once rushed for 100 yards (in a game in which he passed for 30 yards and threw 2 INTs), and threw an INT in 10 of his 16 games with 20+ attempts. But, yeah, they are the same.
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
68699 posts
Posted on 9/8/22 at 10:02 am to
quote:

But there's definitely a group on here that won't hear any criticism of Daniels or any talk of Nuss in what was supposed to be a close QB competition


I trust the staff to put the best qb on the field that gives us the best chance to win. I also don't read a whole bunch into the "close competition" comments by BK...what is he supposed to say? JD is the clear cut #1 qb and we don't have much backing him up? It may be close and I am sure we will see both and will probably find out why JD is the starter.
Posted by Lou Pai
Member since Dec 2014
29218 posts
Posted on 9/8/22 at 10:04 am to
He could have also just named a starter like the regular way. You may be right that he has to do this in the new era of the transfer portal. But whether he was acting or not, he certainly made it seem like he was having a hard time with the decision.
Posted by LaTexSaint
Member since Jul 2013
1025 posts
Posted on 9/8/22 at 10:05 am to
The thing about Daniels is he missed some reads, but on those same plays he gained positive yards with his running ability.

Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
25809 posts
Posted on 9/8/22 at 10:12 am to
quote:

Wait until he actually start trying to push the ball down the field and not throw 10 yard passes.



When you can't pass protect and you can't run the ball with your running backs, 10 yard passes are your best friend.
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
68699 posts
Posted on 9/8/22 at 10:20 am to
He could be saying it just to keep Nuss's confidence high. One play and Nuss is the starter. Or it really is close. From what I saw last year Nuss was only interested in showing his arm off and throwing it deep into 2 and 3 man coverages. He has a gunslinger mentality, based on the few reps I have seen. I know he has had an entire spring and fall camp to improve so hopefully when he does play he will show improvement in that area...mostly bad things happen when you throw into triple coverages in the SEC.
Posted by CP3LSU25
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2009
52570 posts
Posted on 9/8/22 at 10:22 am to
quote:

I'm not worried until 3-4 games in


You’re not worried about be 2-2?
Posted by how333
Member since Dec 2020
2604 posts
Posted on 9/8/22 at 10:22 am to
There’s a reason the “run and gun” offense didn’t last.
Posted by Kingd92
Member since May 2018
352 posts
Posted on 9/8/22 at 10:31 am to
Yeah and Jayden has only done is 6 times in 30 games….
Posted by sabes que
Member since Jan 2010
10156 posts
Posted on 9/8/22 at 10:33 am to
Daniels is our best option and that’s why he is playing. Get over it.
Posted by TIGERforLIFEinTX
Kingwood, TX
Member since Jul 2007
528 posts
Posted on 9/8/22 at 10:38 am to
After watching film on him, not sure he will ever be great at pre- or post-snap reads. He primarily threw to his primary receiver with very few exceptions.

I think if he improves a bit, with an up tempo offense and his running ability, hopefully will be enough to be successful in the SEC! We shall see shortly.
Posted by jwp475
N. La.
Member since Oct 2010
559 posts
Posted on 9/8/22 at 10:41 am to
quote:

Same coaches and players he had as a Sun Devil? Everything is different, clown!


No, reading defenses isn't different


Posted by LaTexSaint
Member since Jul 2013
1025 posts
Posted on 9/8/22 at 10:44 am to
In 2018:

Burrow - Year 1 at LSU (After 10 games played at OSU)

Completion % - 57.8%
Y/A - 7.6
TD - 16
Int - 5
Yds - 2894
Rushing yds - 399

Posted by sabes que
Member since Jan 2010
10156 posts
Posted on 9/8/22 at 10:44 am to
Not every QB is going to be Joe Burrow. Daniels is the best we have and can do a lot of things well. Deal with it.
Posted by Scoob
Near Exxon
Member since Jun 2009
21793 posts
Posted on 9/8/22 at 10:45 am to
quote:

But there's definitely a group on here that won't hear any criticism of Daniels or any talk of Nuss in what was supposed to be a close QB competition. And they are delusional about how well Daniels actually played. He was a mixed bag on Sunday for sure and there are still some question marks with him that will hopefully be addressed.
When we start talking about fans being delusional, let's go with this:

The QB was ok. As pointed out, 70% completion, 2 TDs to zero turnovers, over 100 yds rushing, let the team on a 99 yd drive in a minute and a half for a TD, when we were down 7.
That is not a bad performance.

There are many other things that need fixing, BEFORE you get to that position.

WR: Boutte is supposed to be an elite All American. Dropped 2 sure TDs, didn't make an effort on the second one. Dropped an additional pass he should have caught when open. The other WRs had good games, they caught the passes they were targeted on. Jenkins had 2 TDs.
Any and every person on this board would have said, a new QB needs to lean on Boutte, who was probably considered the best player on the team. But he was the weakest link in that group.

RB: 39 yds rushing on 13 carries for Cain, Goodwin and Williams. Cain and Goodwin each had 1 run for 9 yds; you take those away, and you get 21 yds on 11 carries. 2 yds a run.
That's not an acceptable output, you need the running game (besides the QB) to at least pose a threat.
This might be one of the reasons you didn't see Nuss, because the defense would have been teeing off on him as much as Daniels.

O line: no escaping this, they were terrible. Didn't get a push in the run game, didn't provide much pass protection. Center had some bad snaps, one which likely cost us an early TD.

Defense was bad. D Line was not the force of nature we expected. Their only achievement was not being blown off the line in the red zone. Linebackers were lost, secondary looked like guys who'd never played together before. As stated, the one area that looked good was in the red zone, where it's more about man-vs-man, holding your ground, and not having to read what's happening.

Special teams... special ed. Literally better off without a punt returner back; at least then you take possession. I know it's "only 2", but we are going into game 2 with a 100% fumbles on punt returns.
Basic kick coverage is woefully bad; 2 blocked kicks. Not low kicks or misses, blocks because of free runs at the kicker.

There's a LOT of shite to clean up, before we have the luxury of pulling our QB (the only productive guy on the field) to check out the backup.
Posted by sabes que
Member since Jan 2010
10156 posts
Posted on 9/8/22 at 10:46 am to
Some people are going to hate on Daniels no matter what he does. They can’t even keep up with their own false narratives. “He’s not accurate” was the favorite.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
75425 posts
Posted on 9/8/22 at 10:47 am to
No but some coaches are better at coaching.

Players don’t learn all this on their own.
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