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re: Daniels per BK...mentioned the word recognition at least 4 times
Posted on 9/8/22 at 9:01 am to Honkus
Posted on 9/8/22 at 9:01 am to Honkus
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Yeah he looked like absolute dogshit Sunday especially the 2H where they could not stop us inc a 99y drive in 90 seconds.
He had a great 4th quarter especially given the circumstances but was not very good for most of the game. Unclear how much of this coaching, OL, etc. I was about ready to see Nuss in 2nd half to see something different, given how supposedly close the QB battle was, but they obviously changed it up and he seemed to settle in a lot better. Not clear to me how much of it was his fault in the first half but I don't think he got a ton of help at all from Denbrock.
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Posted on 9/8/22 at 9:12 am to BeeFense5
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because a non mobile qb would get murdered behind that line
This is extremely oversimplified.
A non-mobile QB with quick read/reaction time would do fine.
I think Daniels had a pretty good game and I'm excited about his potential, but he missed a dozen quck-read passes that would've been complete regardless of poor blocking, including probably 3 touchdowns.
Posted on 9/8/22 at 9:14 am to DIGGY
Needs to spend hours studying film. I’m sure he’s doing this
Posted on 9/8/22 at 9:15 am to DIGGY
Does Nuss have a recognition prob?
Posted on 9/8/22 at 9:18 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Nuss probably has the higher capacity to improve since he's younger and less experienced.
I trust that BK would play the guy that is ready over having the most upside though. I am betting Nuss is much worse in reads and protections at this stage of his career. It's hard for a major program/coach to sacrifice a season to develop a guy that is more talented, if that is the case. From watching BK coached teams he has never had an issue playing multiple qbs throughout a season so that makes me question just how close JD and Nuss are.
Posted on 9/8/22 at 9:21 am to Chad504boy
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The ones that start along the lines of “Daniels isn’t the reason we lost” argument.
He’s not. The offense scored 3.3 points per possession. If they had gotten a normal 12-13 possessions, they would have scored 40+ points at that rate. And that doesn’t even factor in the 4 points lost by special teams on blocked kicks. It also doesn’t factor in the bad snap, false start and Boutte not looking for the ball at the end zone that also cost LSU points, none of which were on Daniels. It’s entirely laughable to think Daniels was the reason we lost.
Posted on 9/8/22 at 9:21 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Nuss probably has the higher capacity to improve since he's younger and less experienced.
lol, I'll go ahead and trust the coaches
Posted on 9/8/22 at 9:25 am to Chad504boy
quote:So your opinion is, Daniels IS the reason we lost?quote:
Where are these people?
The ones that start along the lines of “Daniels isn’t the reason we lost” argument.
Posted on 9/8/22 at 9:26 am to Honkus
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99y drive in 90 seconds.
Sheeeit. Less than that!
Some reports say 65 seconds but I know it was 70 seconds. We were at the game and when we lined up on offense after the turnover I yelled to my kids, "We got 1:10 on the clock and 1 time out to go 99 yards. WE GOT THIS!"
I was half joking but I'm an optimist. Was Epical.
Posted on 9/8/22 at 9:26 am to DIGGY
quote:This is exactly the reason most people here were critical of him and didn’t want him starting. If he doesn’t have it by now he never will.
In his PC Kelly mentioned the word recognition (adjusting protection and throws based on pre and post snap recognition) at least 4 times when discussing what Daniels struggled with/needs improvement. Would think experience would help with this but he has 20 something starts under his belt.
Hopefully Nuss gets some time and shows he can adjust at the line and make the hot reads in a game time situation. Once he does that the JD experiment is over. Nuss is the son of a QB coach you would think he’s been being taught these types of things for awhile.
Posted on 9/8/22 at 9:26 am to Topwater Trout
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I trust that BK would play the guy that is ready over having the most upside though.
He will. I can't blame him, he wants to win right away too. Nuss being less experienced is both curse and blessing.
I still think both play, or they have to get far more creative with Jayden and get him out of the pocket to throw.
Posted on 9/8/22 at 9:27 am to DIGGY
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If Daniels didn’t have the running ability he does he wouldn’t be starting, esp if we are to believe what BK said about them being 1A/B in camp.
My take on this is that if JD didnt have such good wheels he would be putting more effort in his reads. My guess is he has always had success running out of trouble and praised for it. Many of the posters on herethat praised his effort this past game were looking at the fact that he did not make many mistakes. The proem with that is not knowing what he left on the table by jackrabbiting.
I watched Power Hour with Carter film study and saw some of this. Daniels often made a good positive play with his feet but also missed wide open targets at the same time.
Another issue here is throwing to the right guy. The throw to Boutte on the goal line that he did not even attempt to catch was a bad QB read. Boutte was double covered and three receivers on the left side were single man covered. All of them were open... result was KB looked like shite because he half assed it and was not expecting it. He still could have and should have caught it but he was fixin to eat a safety.
Posted on 9/8/22 at 9:30 am to RogerTheShrubber
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I still think both play, or they have to get far more creative with Jayden and get him out of the pocket to throw.
I have no doubts we will see Nuss play. I think if the line looked better against FSU he would've played sunday.
Posted on 9/8/22 at 9:33 am to Lou Pai
In what percent of our drives did Daniels put us in scoring position?
Posted on 9/8/22 at 9:34 am to Bayou
Everything except the same game he has been playing for 30+ starts now Mrs. Daniels!! Yea f game hasn’t slowed down for him by now……. Not a bash Daniels thread or a start GN thread. Just going with what THE HEAD COACH said and how do they fix it going forward.
Posted on 9/8/22 at 9:34 am to DIGGY
Just my opinion, his downfall, he tucks and runs, elite running QBs use there speed and ability to keep the play going by getting away and keeping their eyes down field to make a throw...JD doesn't do that,just tucks and runs,
Posted on 9/8/22 at 9:35 am to MikeTheTiger71
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He’s not. The offense scored 3.3 points per possession. If they had gotten a normal 12-13 possessions, they would have scored 40+ points at that rate.
I seem to remember another qb taking all the blame for scoring 40+ and losing.
Posted on 9/8/22 at 9:37 am to Lou Pai
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the Daniels fanboys
don't do this
Posted on 9/8/22 at 9:39 am to DIGGY
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If Daniels didn’t have the running ability he does he wouldn’t be starting
Obviously, but the kid can run like Johnny Manziel.
Posted on 9/8/22 at 9:45 am to Damone
Wait until he actually start trying to push the ball down the field and not throw 10 yard passes.
Shaq has the second highest field goal % ever in the NBA. That doesn’t mean he is a great shooter.
Shaq has the second highest field goal % ever in the NBA. That doesn’t mean he is a great shooter.
This post was edited on 9/8/22 at 9:46 am
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