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Colorado cop uses flock cameras to falsely accuse citizen

Posted on 9/26/26 at 8:51 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 9/26/26 at 8:51 am


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When the Columbine Valley Police Department (Colorado), using their dystopian flock surveillance system, saw a green Rivian truck driving down the same street, in the same town, 20 times over the course of a month, they became suspicious. But even more suspicious than that, the driver of the Rivian truck was a woman with blonde hair... So when a $25 package went missing from a porch in that neighborhood that the blonde bandit was driving her 70 thousand dollar truck through on a daily basis, it obviously must have been her. At that point the government did what any good dystopian government agency would do, they sent a rude, bald member of their goon squad to the woman’s front door to lie to her; gaslight her; and threaten her.


Lucky for the citizen, this was all recorded on her door camera

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"You know why I'm here," Columbine Valley Police Sgt. Jamie Milliman said to her. The interaction was captured on her doorbell camera.

She felt she was already guilty in the eyes of the police.

"You know we have cameras in that town," Milliman said. "You can't get a breath of fresh air in or out of that place without us knowing, correct?"

It started as an attempt to confirm whether Elser's truck, a green Rivian, was the same vehicle seen driving through the town of Bow Mar, and quickly escalated.

"It went right into, 'we have video of you stealing a package,'" Elser said.

Milliman showed her photos of her truck entering and leaving Bow Mar and that he had video of her committing the theft.

"Can I see the video?" Elser asked.

"If you go to court, you can," the officer replied. "If you're going to deny it, I'm not going to extend you any courtesy."


This is the SOP. They give you some basic evidence on the exterior of the situation. Then they lie and claim they have direct evidence of you committing the crime. When you ask to see THAT evidence, they say they will only share if you admit to the crime, otherwise you have to go to court to prove your innocence.

In this scenario, the evidence the LEO has is from flock cameras. The innocent citizen was presumed guilty until she could prove her innocence, and she wasn't even given access to the shitty evidence used for the LEO to incorrectly presume her guilt.

The LEO was disciplined, but only because the citizen had it all on camera. Without the camera, this would be reduced to a report written by the dishonest LEO and it would protect him fully.

This is the future of American law enforcement if we don't start valuing and defending the protections of the Constitution again.
Posted by jorconalx
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Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 9/26/26 at 9:17 am to
Something we can agree on.
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
86165 posts
Posted on 9/26/26 at 9:20 am to
frick flock and the bootlickers that abuse it....
Posted by NawlinsTiger9
Where the mongooses roam
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 9/26/26 at 9:21 am to
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"You can't get a breath of fresh air in or out of that place without us knowing, correct?"


Imagine someone showing up at your door saying shite like this
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
15311 posts
Posted on 9/26/26 at 9:22 am to
Obviously she must have done something wrong, otherwise she wouldn't have had anything to worry about with those cameras.

People who say idiot stuff like that somehow are oblivious to the fact that the technology itself isn't the problem...it's the cops and what they DO with the technology that is the problem.

Someday people are going to rediscover that the government is the biggest threat they face. Unfortunately, it's going to take learning it the hard way for the vast, vast majority of them.
Posted by Auburn1968
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Posted on 9/26/26 at 9:24 am to
Seems like that is a civil rights violation that should get the town and police department sued.
Posted by alphaandomega
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Member since Aug 2012
17439 posts
Posted on 9/26/26 at 9:34 am to
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The LEO was disciplined, but only because the citizen had it all on camera


I like the fact that his lies about the situation (with flock camera "evidence") was captured by her doorbell camera.

Ironic.
Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 9/26/26 at 9:36 am to
There is an excellent video by a lawyer explaining why you shouldn’t talk to the cops.
Posted by Victor R Franko
Member since Dec 2021
4791 posts
Posted on 9/26/26 at 9:37 am to
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Seems like that is a civil rights violation that should get the town and police department sued.

AGREED. There should be some lawyer willing to make a stink about this with some welll placed mud slung in the media. Get some names named and some law suits initiated. Police and city council may beat the wrap, but they can't beat the ride.
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
21276 posts
Posted on 9/26/26 at 9:38 am to
What does the flock camera have to do with it. He just lied about what he had, he could have done that without the camera.

You guys are going way overboard with these outlier issues.

And you are ranting on a cell phone that is tracking your every move and thought
Posted by Smooth Obturator
Member since May 2025
74 posts
Posted on 9/26/26 at 9:44 am to
I’m sure the ACLU is all over this.

/sarcasm
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
104484 posts
Posted on 9/26/26 at 9:56 am to
frick flock cameras and that cop. Driving on a public road through a town is barely circumstantial evidence for something like this considering hundreds do the same thing every day.


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You know we have cameras in that town," Milliman said. "You can't get a breath of fresh air in or out of that place without us knowing, correct?"


This statement should terrify anyone who values freedom and this video proves the whole “if you’re doing nothing wrong you have nothing to worry about” is complete bullshite
Posted by LEOPOLD2
Member since Aug 2026
104 posts
Posted on 9/26/26 at 10:03 am to
And in typical fashion the piece of shite in blue got a slap on the wrist publicly and probably congratulated in private
Posted by icecreamsnowball
Member since Mar 2025
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Posted on 9/26/26 at 10:11 am to
I can’t wait for a cop to try and pull this on someone with all the weapons and nothing to lose.
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Member since Sep 2003
141340 posts
Posted on 9/26/26 at 10:19 am to
quote:

In this scenario, the evidence the LEO has is from flock cameras. The innocent citizen was presumed guilty until she could prove her innocence, and she wasn't even given access to the shitty evidence used for the LEO to incorrectly presume her guilt.
Yep this vid made the rounds last year, but it makes you want to slap the glasses of that crooked cop's face.
Posted by idlewatcher
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Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 9/26/26 at 10:20 am to
Give him the needle
Posted by LEOPOLD2
Member since Aug 2026
104 posts
Posted on 9/26/26 at 10:21 am to
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Yep this vid made the rounds last year, but it makes you want to slap the glasses of that crooked cop's face

The unfortunate thing in my view is that most people Miss what's really bad about the video. Yeah the flock cameras were a problem. But the real problem was this piece of shite was absolutely giddy about the idea that he could track you every minute of the day. His level of pleasure with his power in the situation was just otherworldly. It was a window into the soul of how he likely polices all the time
Posted by Tiger1955
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806 posts
Posted on 9/26/26 at 10:29 am to
Those cameras are not full proof though, because they don’t record illegal immigrants.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 9/26/26 at 10:31 am to
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What does the flock camera have to do with it


Did you even read?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 9/26/26 at 10:43 am to
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AGREED. There should be some lawyer willing to make a stink about this with some welll placed mud slung in the media.


The current status of our Police State would not permit a suit.

LEO is protected. I doubt you could even challenge qualified immunity with this cop lying and trying to coerce a false confession.
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