re: Colorado cop uses flock cameras to falsely accuse citizen

I do aspire to get on your level one day of allowing the same script, used by the same people, to work on me: people don’t commit crimes or abuse things, it’s your fault for tempting them to do so. So if we remove XYZ, it’ll be better, I promise they’ll behave after that.

Same people who just told you to hate AI over the span of two days with an ex-anthropic employee sending a tweet, going on TV, a bill already written by congress, and Obama saying everyone focus on AI, and that evening a Netflix documentary premiered about it as well!

That’s who you’re listening to. The same people who want to fight you to the death for illegals. You’re a fricking retarded bitch ;)

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sanctuary cities want strict controls—or outright bans—on these systems because mass automated tracking conflicts with local policies designed to protect undocumented residents from being tracked or targeted by federal immigration authorities.

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You forgot the exclamation point or winky face

:-o

You're a 12 year old, aren't you?

Are you people still somewhat afraid of the Gestapo camps these days? I feel like you’ve left that one mostly behind?

Can always pivot if necessary

Flock Safety Wants the Map of Its Cameras Taken Down After Researcher Exposes 300,000-Device Dragnet

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A surveillance company is reportedly trying to pull offline a public map showing the reach of its own network. The map, created by cybersecurity researcher Joshua Michael, identifies roughly 300,000 devices tied to Flock Safety across the country.

According to The Intercept, the map draws on location data from a snapshot of Flock’s records archived by Michael in December 2025.

It lists more than 170,000 cameras and over 130,000 other devices, including acoustic sensors and equipment that connects third-party cameras.

On Thursday, Michael received a trademark complaint from Doppel, an AI “social-engineering defense” firm that said it was acting on Flock’s behalf.

The demand: stop using the “FLOCK SAFETY” mark and take the map down, citing supposed customer confusion. The site already carries a disclaimer that it is not affiliated with Flock.

Gadget Review reported the complaint arrived less than 24 hours after the Senate Judiciary Subcommittee on Crime and Counterterrorism held its hearing titled “Always Watching: Flock’s Nationwide AI Surveillance Network.”

Flock CEO Garrett Langley was invited. He did not show. Neither did the CEOs of Axon, Motorola Solutions, or Verkada.

Flock’s billion-dollar platform was caught routing local plate data to federal and out-of-state agencies on a scale cities never authorized.

A San Francisco class action alleged more than 1.6 million outside queries of that city’s cameras in seven months, FBI, ICE, CBP, ATF, DEA and others.

Flock is not a public company. It is a privately held Atlanta firm, valued in the $7–8 billion range, backed by Silicon Valley names including Andreessen Horowitz. Cities lease the cameras. Flock keeps the cloud, the software, and the national search architecture.

Texas Gov. Greg Abbott ordered state agencies to cut off funding after reports that tens of millions in Texas dollars had been used to seed the network. Abbott put it plainly: Americans do not surrender their privacy when they drive to work, drop their kids at school, or go to church.

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In early 2025, Flock lawyers sent a cease-and-desist to Will Freeman, creator of the crowdsourced DeFlock map, claiming the name “diluted” the company’s trademark.

The Electronic Frontier Foundation told Flock to pound sand. Federal anti-dilution law carves out criticism and commentary. Freeman kept the map up. DeFlock now catalogs well over 100,000 ALPR locations nationwide.

Langley went further than a lawyer letter. In a Forbes interview last year he branded DeFlock a “terroristic organization,” lumping camera-mappers with Antifa.

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Flock CEO Garrett Langley has his home blurred out on google maps.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2026/09/flock-safety-wants-map-its-cameras-taken-down/ https://flockhopper.com/lander

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What the frick?

Arguing that making abuse easier necessarily means abuse becomes too common is an empirical proposition, not a legal rule.

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Plenty of LEO-related tools have been ruled to be illegal due to this intrusion.

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The possibility that a lawful tool can be abused

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The argument is they shouldn't be lawful due to the ease of abuse.

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The legal question is whether the government’s particular collection, retention, query, disclosure, or use of the information violates a constitutional or statutory limitation.

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Which is the method to ruling them unlawful (hopefully, although I don't have my hopes up in our current system)

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The fundamental problem is that far too many people default to trusting the police to do the right thing when there is no rational reason to do so. Police, like most government entities generally view the constitution as a nuisance to get around because as long as it works, then it must be good!!!

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Correct.

If people didn't learn this during Covid, I don't know what to tell them.

In any case the thing that drives me batty about the entire flock camera discussion is that everybody's debating pretty much around the word can instead of the word should. And the police have all exposed to themselves every last fricking police chief in the country who has come out excusing them because they've all made the same argument. Well they work they help us solve x y and z crime! Well you know what. Surveillance States work. They always have. I can promise you that China has an easier time finding a crook then we do. Same with stalinist Russia same with Nazi Germany same with North Korea and on and on. There's a reason why for the most part the West had shunned such stupidity. Because whether something works isn't the only fricking question. And this whole trust me bro approach to the silliness is just as dumb. Frankly this goes all the way back to Snowden. No trust us we're not going to do anything with that information that we shouldn't! What government in the history of fricking world hasn't used information it had access to against its own citizens? Here I'll help with that one. Zero.

And for all of the if you're not doing anything wrong you shouldn't be worried people. Do you really have such little imagination that you can't imagine how knowing exactly where you've been all damn day everyday might be useful to people who want to manipulate you? I mean hell. You don't even have to be doing anything wrong because the implication will get around the world before the truth puts its pants on. All I have to do if I want to manipulate you is publish that you have visited some particular woman at strange hours of the night over the course of the last 6 months. It might be the case that that particular woman is somebody that your family cares greatly about who has been sick but by the time you put that story out you'll be fricked

The flock cameras are creepy and if our government could be trusted, they would be AMAZING tools.

However, we see time and time again that our government police departments can not be trusted. The flock system did its job by flagging a person of interest that COULD be connected to the crime. The cops were idiots by taking that as 100% evidence and the cop made it worse by refusing to even investigate or look into what the woman was providing her.

I bet this town theyre in voted for Trump in 2024. I know a lot of people don't want to hear it, but we have a huge blind spot when it comes to some of these emerging technocracies.