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re: College athlestes can now play after transferring a second time in the transfer portal

Posted on 3/26/24 at 11:28 am to
Posted by Locoguan0
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Nov 2017
4301 posts
Posted on 3/26/24 at 11:28 am to
Conferences need to agree that contracts will be standard. This is the only thing that can stop the free-for-all.
Posted by J2thaROC
Member since May 2018
13035 posts
Posted on 3/26/24 at 11:31 am to
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I guess the purity is gone. The college game will no longer be about the school but all about the revenue.


There never was any “purity”.

It was never “about the school”.

You are looking at it from an outside looking in viewpoint with nostalgia goggles on and “day dreaming” about something that never actually existed in reality.
Posted by The Mick
Member since Oct 2010
43143 posts
Posted on 3/26/24 at 11:37 am to
LSU fans can whine all we want about the portal, but two things to consider:

Joe Burrow
Jayden Daniels

etc
Posted by LSUVT
Member since Oct 2023
373 posts
Posted on 3/26/24 at 11:48 am to
Spot on. Angel Reese, Aneesah Morrow, HVL, Alexis Morris, Poa, etc.
Posted by PUB
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2017
18258 posts
Posted on 3/26/24 at 11:50 am to
Time to cancel college sports.
They all want the $ then let them go to the NFL and NBA G League along with Baseball Farm Leagues. Let them travel on buses overnight and work for a rich person that treats the like a commodity.
I can support the BR Tigers just like I did for LSU.
Posted by thejuiceisloose
UNO Fan
Member since Nov 2018
4180 posts
Posted on 3/26/24 at 12:51 pm to
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Time for the SEC, BIG10 and ACC to abandon the NCAA and impose some reasonable regulation on NIL and transfers.


You're assuming that the conferences are opposed to this
Posted by Luggahead
Member since Nov 2020
1085 posts
Posted on 3/26/24 at 12:52 pm to
The rate they are going, the athletes will be able to change schools during the season before long. If your school isn't in the playoffs just transfer to one that is.
Posted by Confufu
Member since Mar 2024
26 posts
Posted on 3/26/24 at 12:53 pm to
Grammer board
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
28384 posts
Posted on 3/26/24 at 1:37 pm to
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Time to cancel college sports.
They all want the $ then let them go to the NFL and NBA G League along with Baseball Farm Leagues. Let them travel on buses overnight and work for a rich person that treats the like a commodity.
I can support the BR Tigers just like I did for LSU.


The SEC is about to start a $3 BILLION media contract. LSU football generated $54 million in revenue. LSU gets paid quite handsomely for licensing their trademarks to people to slap it on hats, t-shirts, forks, knives, spoons, dildos, etc, etc. Most people aren't buying those to show support for the Sociology program.

The coaches are getting paid 6, 7, 8 figure salaries players. Yet, you're saying the players don't deserve any share of that massive revenue even though they are the ones most responsible for generating it?

And yes, the players are not completely "playing for free". All of their general living expenses are covered (housing, food, health insurance, etc) in addition to tuition. But what does that come out to annually? $75k to $100k per year (best?) Is that market value for a player like Jayden Daniels who plays a big role in generating well over $100M per year? I doubt it. In a free market Daniels is earning a salary of at least $2M, $3M, $4M annually for his efforts in a business that has revenues exceeding $100M

As for the scholarships I think most would agree the players by and large don't really want the hassle of attending school. If they could play without doing so they would. But being a student at the school is a prerequisite for playing football. So if you are going to require the players to attend school shouldn't you cover the costs of doing so?

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They all want the $ then let them go to the NFL and NBA G League along with Baseball Farm Leagues. Let them travel on buses overnight and work for a rich person that treats the like a commodity.


They probably would. But you know who DOES NOT want to end college football? LSU, Alabama, Ohio St, Georgia, etc, etc because they don't want to give up the massive amount of money it generates. The NCAA/Colleges loved the pre-NIL set up because not only could they continue to generate greater and greater revenue, but they didn't have to pay the "labor" market value for it. Furthermore, they could generate additional revenue using a players NIL with the player being given virtually nothing lest he risk his eligibility.

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I can support the BR Tigers just like I did for LSU.


But you wouldn't. That's because you don't cheer for the players. You cheer for the "uniform". Even before this current transfer era the players changed significantly from year to year via graduation, etc. Yet, your fandom level remained the same. That's because your fandom doesn't leave with the players. If LSU lost football and basketball and got a minor league team in the process it would do about as well as every other minor league team...which is not very. Most of the best baseball prospects in the world don't go to college and go straight to the minor leagues. Yet, those teams in and of themselves don't have a viewership market to generate $100+ million in revenue. Fans have decades of goodwill and loyalty invested into the LSU brand. You can't generated that level of loyalty/goodwill by simply starting a BR minor league football team (just look at how few people attend USFL games)

The way to "fix it" would be for essentially the major conf. football and men's basketball program and the conferences they are in disassociating themselves from the NCAA and the players unions along with the conferences/school entering into a CBA agreeing to terms to split the revenue generated.

Unfortunately, as long as those teams are affiliated with universities they are subject to federal law applying to all students at those universities so a school probably couldn't simply pay the basketball and football players big, market value "salaries" and pay the softball players next to nothing. Given the schools wouldn't want to end the revenue train generated by football and basketball, they would likely choose to cut all of the minor sports (including baseball)
Posted by togar tiger
Member since Jan 2008
705 posts
Posted on 3/26/24 at 1:39 pm to
Then they are employees. Which the schools seem hellbent on avoiding, thus the mess we have now.
Posted by JiminyCricket
Member since Jun 2017
3564 posts
Posted on 3/26/24 at 1:41 pm to
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LSU fans can whine all we want about the portal, but two things to consider:

Joe Burrow
Jayden Daniels

etc



Isn't that kind of the point though? LSU has benefitted from the portal as much as anyone but it's clear that the system is broken. It would be sour grapes if we only complained because it hasn't worked out in our favor.
This post was edited on 3/26/24 at 1:42 pm
Posted by Datbayoubengal
Port City
Member since Sep 2009
26664 posts
Posted on 3/26/24 at 1:44 pm to
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I'm already souring on college sports. Won't be long before I don't care any more just like the athletes. The term student athlete is a joke now.
It's always been a joke. I found out the term was created by an NCAA lawyer to win a case decades ago. So, in fact, it has ALWAYS been about the money. You just weren't privy to it because it was all under the table. Once TV started to heavily get involved and nothing was changed and regulated to pay players, it was leading to this situation eventually. Even before the basketball dude, they tried to get paid. This has happened several times and the NCAA didn't want to spread the wealth. If they weren't greedy, they could have worked on a plan in the background and had working contracts for these young adults, decades ago.
Posted by airlarry
Member since Jun 2011
17 posts
Posted on 3/26/24 at 2:19 pm to
Easy. This is college, so tie transfers to college credit.

Sign with a team out of HS? Must play with the team until you reach junior status (60 credit hours). Free transfer anywhere then if you want.

Graduate or have 120 hours? One more transfer allowed.

Six years to play four years (two redshirts). I’m negotiable on that one. Four in five years is good too.

Make it so.

Posted by Gaston
Dirty Coast
Member since Aug 2008
39025 posts
Posted on 3/26/24 at 2:25 pm to
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Six years to play four years


That just fricks high school kids.
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
30388 posts
Posted on 3/26/24 at 2:31 pm to
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Easy. This is college, so tie transfers to college credit.

Sign with a team out of HS? Must play with the team until you reach junior status (60 credit hours). Free transfer anywhere then if you want.



Thinks are now beyond that. You have these things being decide in court, what you are suggesting would be challenged with the contention that you are singling out a particular group of students. SInce the courts seem to be very pro "student-athlete" right now, I suspect they would accept that argument on behalf of the athletes over the school.

The genie is out of the bottle now, getting it back in is always harder than getting it out.
Posted by Pepe Lepew
Looney tuned .....
Member since Oct 2008
36115 posts
Posted on 3/26/24 at 6:04 pm to
Who?
Posted by coonass27
shreveport
Member since Mar 2008
3620 posts
Posted on 3/26/24 at 9:32 pm to
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Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66652 posts
Posted on 3/26/24 at 9:37 pm to
this is h in early bad.

I believe players shouldn’t be held to a standard coaches aren’t held to, but this is beyond anything a pro even gets to do.

Let them transfer when their head coach leaves, 1 3 years at a school and when they graduate.
Posted by lostinbr
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2017
9412 posts
Posted on 3/26/24 at 10:12 pm to
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The NCAA didn't make any changes they weren't forced to though. The courts made those decisions for them.

This is true, and it’s something I think a lot of people keep forgetting.
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So simply moving to another regulating body wouldn't do anything, when the courts will ultimately decide. I think the NCAA is a joke, but saying simply break from the NCAA wouldn't actually solve anything.

Maybe, maybe not.

The NCAA’s biggest issue at the moment is antitrust, since they’re the only game in town. It’s possible that a split might allow the new regulating body to claw some of that back. Or at a minimum, maybe it stops the bleeding. I don’t know if it’s likely, but it’s possible.

I think the more probable outcome of a split is that the top conferences finally bite the bullet and enter into collective bargaining, which would solve a lot of the issues around transfers specifically. OTOH, if they go into collective bargaining there the whole Title IX thing to navigate, since the member institutions would still be bound by it.
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