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re: Coaching...too early to compare Marcus Freeman to Brian Kelly?
Posted on 12/5/24 at 1:02 pm to skullhawk
Posted on 12/5/24 at 1:02 pm to skullhawk
they beat A&M.
I think Freeman has the making of a good coach, but he was handed a better situation.
He was a continuity hire with big upside and he’s basically been copying Brian Kelly’s homework for 3 years.
I think Freeman has the making of a good coach, but he was handed a better situation.
He was a continuity hire with big upside and he’s basically been copying Brian Kelly’s homework for 3 years.
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Posted on 12/5/24 at 1:05 pm to FredbullTN
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This! When they took over their respective teams one took over a team in the playoff and the other took over a team with a WR starting at qb in a bowl game.
Posted on 12/5/24 at 1:05 pm to skullhawk
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One took over a program with 39 players
The mythmaking about how bad the program was just keeps getting more and more awful
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a WR at QB
In those "39 players" was there not 1 QB on a scholarship or a walk on?
Posted on 12/5/24 at 1:07 pm to TigerFlash
The comparison shouldn’t be Freeman to Kelly, It should be Freeman to Sanders.
Both African American coaches started the same year at a major P5 gig.
Sanders sells his program by promoting himself. Freeman gets his hands dirty and grinds to prove he’s worthy of the ND job.
I’m taking Freeman 10/10! Better coach, better recruiter and better work ethic!
I would have loved to see the defense had he chose LSU when we were after him.
Both African American coaches started the same year at a major P5 gig.
Sanders sells his program by promoting himself. Freeman gets his hands dirty and grinds to prove he’s worthy of the ND job.
I’m taking Freeman 10/10! Better coach, better recruiter and better work ethic!
I would have loved to see the defense had he chose LSU when we were after him.
Posted on 12/5/24 at 1:11 pm to baseballcoach23
quote:Here's the answer.
One inherited a dumpster fire while the other was handed a sports car. No comparison.
Posted on 12/5/24 at 1:18 pm to TigerFlash
quote:They played TAMU game one with a coach in his first game there. and Weigman played the ENTIRE GAME. LSU was crushing TAMU when Weigman was in. LSU was beating a more developed TAMU with Weigman at the helm and making it look easy.
They also beat Texas A&M, LSU didn't. That's two teams (not "...worth a damn...") they beat that LSU couldn't. Just sayin.
Posted on 12/5/24 at 1:20 pm to Cuz413
quote:Here's your myth.
The mythmaking about how bad the program was just keeps getting more and more awful
Orgeron's last two seasons at LSU was an abysmal 11-12.
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“On January 4th, we had 39 scholarship players. 39. As I said, on August 4th, when we report our first day, we’re going to get to 84. We might not get to 85, but we’re going to be at 84. So, we’ll get the roster back to where it needs to be in very short order,” explained Kelly. “You know, mid-years, as you know, we only took 17. Look, that is not how I will build a program here at LSU year-in and year-out. But we needed to address that gap that I just mentioned to you for us to get to 84. This isn’t Triple A — this is the SEC. So, you better have a full roster of really good football players when you show up. You can’t have 72 scholarship players. Or the guys running down on the field, they’re not going to be SEC players.
Kelly's last two seasons at ND 21-3
Posted on 12/5/24 at 1:21 pm to SammyTiger
Freeman has to make a deep playoff run/win a title to prove he is better than what Kelly was there.
Posted on 12/5/24 at 1:25 pm to Datbayoubengal
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They played TAMU game one with a coach in his first game there. and Weigman played the ENTIRE GAME. LSU was crushing TAMU when Weigman was in. LSU was beating a more developed TAMU with Weigman at the helm and making it look easy.
So what about the fact that LSU played USC with a QB that got benched and ND beat that team with his replacement??
Posted on 12/5/24 at 1:25 pm to TigerBait2008
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One plays a real schedule the other plays 1 game a year so no.
Yes, I agree that Notre Dame has a powder puff schedule most years. Let's see Marcus Freeman face SEC caliber talent week after week and then we can make a comparison.
Posted on 12/5/24 at 1:27 pm to TigerFlash
Freeman got the #1 punter in the country to sign…we have feedle-dee and feedle-dumb punting for us.
Posted on 12/5/24 at 1:28 pm to TigerBait2008
quote:When are yall gonna stop saying this dumb shite? Michigan just won the national title, Texas is the best team in the SEC and we played one common opponent this year. Notre Dame whipped USC and USC beat us.
One plays a real schedule the other plays 1 game a year so no.
Notre Dame vs LSU on a neutral field - Notre Dame would be -5.5 at least.
Three years later- Notre Dame is absolutely a better team than LSU
Posted on 12/5/24 at 1:30 pm to TigerFlash
Freeman lost a game to Ohio State because he had only 10 players on the field and lost to NIU at home.
Posted on 12/5/24 at 1:32 pm to baseballcoach23
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One inherited a dumpster fire while the other was handed a sports car.
Freeman was handed the sports car that Kelly brought & maintained at that.
Posted on 12/5/24 at 1:37 pm to LSBoosie
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So what about the fact that LSU played USC with a QB that got benched
As teams got more film on USC every week, their weaknesses got exposed more.
Posted on 12/5/24 at 1:37 pm to Gaston
quote:Do you really want to compare recruiting?
Freeman got the #1 punter in the country to sign…we have feedle-dee and feedle-dumb punting for us.
Posted on 12/5/24 at 1:39 pm to Gaston
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Freeman got the #1 punter in the country to sign…we have feedle-dee and feedle-dumb punting for us.
A punter?!
We talkin about a punter?!!
Posted on 12/5/24 at 1:40 pm to skullhawk
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ND’s signature wins this season are over the service academies.
We had two common opponents. ND went 2-0. We went 0-2.
BK did inherit a worse situation than he left at ND, but he gets to recruit in a more fertile region now.
So BK can shut up and win games.
Posted on 12/5/24 at 1:41 pm to Solo Cam
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When are yall gonna stop saying this dumb shite?
pretty much every strength of schedule you find anywhere has Notre Dame with a significantly weaker schedule than LSU.
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Michigan just won the national title
what does that have to do with Notre Dame's schedule?
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Texas is the best team in the SEC
not sure what that has to do with Notre Dame's schedule either.
Texas played 1 team that finished in the top half of the SEC (A&M finished win 9th place for the 2nd best finish among UT opponents).
and they lost that game.
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we played one common opponent this year.
we played 2 common opponents
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Notre Dame whipped USC and USC beat us.
ohh, we're playing this game now where we pretend the results of one game are a perfect predictor of some hypothetical game?
OK, we beat Vandy and OU.
since both of those teams beat Bama, that means we kicked Bama's arse, right?
Posted on 12/5/24 at 1:41 pm to Salviati
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Do you really want to compare recruiting?
They’re 4 spots below us in team recruiting rankings on On3. That’s pretty much the same.
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