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re: CJJ Saving Scott Woodward

Posted on 7/1/25 at 11:16 am to
Posted by denvertiger
Golden
Member since Feb 2007
4487 posts
Posted on 7/1/25 at 11:16 am to
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I am ok with the hire


Totally agree. LSU football needed some discipline and for a lot of the lost process to be re-operationalized.

That contract, though
Posted by ibldprplgld
Member since Feb 2008
27321 posts
Posted on 7/1/25 at 11:16 am to
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Scott has done one good thing since being AD at LSU


Found the retard
Posted by CatfishJohn
Member since Jun 2020
18917 posts
Posted on 7/1/25 at 11:17 am to
Brian Kelly has our program in excellent shape. He has recruited well, cultivated relationships in Louisiana high schools/towns, funding is great, facilities are great, we're in the preseason top 10 and good Vegas odds to make the playoffs. Is he Nick Saban? No. But also the world is wildly different in the college athletics than it once was and Nick Sabans aren't going to appear anymore IMO.

McMahon has disappointed especially last couple of seasons, for sure. It was a very hard time for LSU basketball to make a huge splash hire, but Will Wade put himself in a position he could not be retained and McMahon was considered a very good mid-major coach. Other programs have made successful hires from such programs. Hopefully the recommitment to NIL will help our roster this year, but this is his last year to prove something (should have been last year) and our program will be able to attract bigger names going forward and we're getting a new arena, etc.

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Kim Mulkey - came on her own. All he had to do was give her $. Most of tRant could've hired Kim. Don't tell me he did anything to get Kim.


This is bullshite.
This post was edited on 7/1/25 at 11:19 am
Posted by CatfishJohn
Member since Jun 2020
18917 posts
Posted on 7/1/25 at 11:23 am to
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BK was a good pre NIL/portal coach, but the landscape has changed dramatically. He may just an average coach in this new Nil/ portal world.


His recruiting has been very good. He had some misses and injuries one year, but overall very good. Roster is very good this season.
Posted by PUB
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2017
20656 posts
Posted on 7/1/25 at 11:36 am to
Too bad he hid behind that pathetic ND weak schedule for most of his career
Sorry BK but so far you are not even Miles or Orgeron let alone Saban. And we are stuck with you for many more years because of SW. Either win or please take a retirement tour.
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
34066 posts
Posted on 7/1/25 at 11:39 am to
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BK has a bad year so LSU fires the AD tell me how that solves a problem. You don't fire the AD because he made a football hire that was not a home run.


Changing the HC would be the most direct move. But doing so, because of the contract, would be highly onerous. However, the AD was, ultimately, the person who chose the HC hire. Thus, while getting rid of the AD doesn't immediately change the HC, it theoretically removes the opportunity for the AD to make the same mistake again when the time comes to hire a new HC.

It happens every year in sports, college and professional, the GM/AD who made the bad hires (coach or players) get fired for making the bad hire.

I'm not saying that is what should happen. I'm just saying that if the football team doesn't live up to expectations and the basketball team is complete shite again, people aren't going to trust the AD who hired the HCs to make "better" hires the second time around.
Posted by lakelanier
Member since Oct 2014
1005 posts
Posted on 7/1/25 at 11:40 am to
Childish, rambling, nonsensical gibberish.
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
76373 posts
Posted on 7/1/25 at 11:41 am to
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Scott has done a good job overall, sadly he screwed up BK's contract. and that is the most visible screw up you can have as an AD.


While I'm not the biggest BK fan after last year, it's tough to call the contract bad when he's a top 10 level coach.
Posted by Dizz
Member since May 2008
15952 posts
Posted on 7/1/25 at 11:45 am to
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It happens every year in sports, college and professional, the GM/AD who made the bad hires (coach or players) get fired for making the bad hire.


It does but usually firings related directly to hires are ones where the AD/GM goes against the grain or makes a unilateral hire. It wasn't like Woodward hired Willie Taggart, Bryan Harsin, or Chad Morris. Those are hires that set your program back 5 years and get you fired.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
78198 posts
Posted on 7/1/25 at 11:47 am to
quote:

Scott has done a good job overall, sadly he screwed up BK's contract.


I’ll call his contract bad when we actually want to fire him.

Posted by Ponchy Tiger
Ponchatoula
Member since Aug 2004
48795 posts
Posted on 7/1/25 at 12:20 pm to
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Matt McMahon - ha ha ha. The worst coach LSU has had in any major sport in forever. Abysmal, horrible, worst of the worst hire.


Nope you are wrong.
Posted by lsu for the win
Member since Jun 2022
1589 posts
Posted on 7/1/25 at 12:22 pm to
We have the dumbest fans on the planet. It's like you mental midgets work hard to out-retard each other.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
66561 posts
Posted on 7/1/25 at 12:39 pm to
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Scott has done a good job overall, sadly he screwed up BK's contract. and that is the most visible screw up you can have as an AD


Folks here insist on getting a big time coach but they get mad when said big time coach commands a big time contract.
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
34066 posts
Posted on 7/1/25 at 12:48 pm to
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Nope you are wrong.


I assume "forever" in this context means in a long time rather than the entire history of LSU sports. That said, in the last 50 years or so who has been a worse major sport HC?

The immediate response is always Curly Hallman. But while it is difficult to compare different sports, there is an argument to be made McMahon has been worse.

Hallman had a .320 SEC winning %
McMahon's is .259

To put that in a little more context Curly won 10 SEC games in 31 opportunities. McMahon only has 4 more SEC wins despite 23 more opportunities.

McMahon has a better overall winning %, but the quality of non-conference competition in basketball vs. football can be much worse. Hallman had 7 non-conf. losses in 4 years. However, 4 of those were to Texas A&M teams that finished ranked no worse than 12th in any of those seasons. Another was to (then) No. 1 Florida St.

Hallman was bad. No one will argue otherwise. But I'm not sure the casual fan fully understands just how bad McMahon has been in his 3 seasons at LSU.


Posted by nwallb9
Member since Oct 2024
313 posts
Posted on 7/1/25 at 1:02 pm to
This year is make or break for BK. Playoffs or retire, Brian.
Posted by FulshearTexasTiger
Fulshear, TX
Member since Jan 2011
1770 posts
Posted on 7/1/25 at 1:05 pm to
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19 posts


obvious bait, please don't fall for it


That's also likely his age......IDIOT!!
Posted by JiminyCricket
Member since Jun 2017
5922 posts
Posted on 7/1/25 at 1:06 pm to
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BK was a good pre NIL/portal coach, but the landscape has changed dramatically. He may just an average coach in this new Nil/ portal world.



I'm not sure how you can charge him with this critique when LSU just landed the best portal class in the country and frankly did a really good job on roster retention. If anything, the new NIL landscape and how LSU is positioned now should give confidence for the future.
Posted by semjase
New Smyrna Beach FL
Member since May 2014
14437 posts
Posted on 7/1/25 at 1:20 pm to
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Brian Kelly - oh boy! I don't want to upset too many of you. He isn't great, he isn't bad. Super meh hire.
I'd take BK in his prime, but he's burnt out and about ready to retire.

He's got that 9.9 mil a year and is just coasting with no fire in his belly.

No way a BK in his prime would allow this abysmal OL situation to unfold. (4 gone. Only 2 signed. Inexperienced and unproven projected Starters. Weak OL coaching {Davis} that requires a babysitter {Atkins} aint gonna cut it in the SEC!)

Posted by Nix to Twillie
Houston, TX
Member since Jan 2015
19989 posts
Posted on 7/1/25 at 1:21 pm to
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came on her own. All he had to do was give her $. Most of tRant could've hired Kim. Don't tell me he did anything to get Kim.


How come no one else did?
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
53064 posts
Posted on 7/1/25 at 1:37 pm to
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Matt McMahon

I think this looks like his only objectively bad hire so far.

Imo Kelly has been ok, but not great either. He's underperformed most fans expectations, but if he goes to the playoffs this year I think that will be soon forgotten.
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