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Can we pull a few threads from when Daniels decided to return for his last year
Posted on 1/14/25 at 4:11 am
Posted on 1/14/25 at 4:11 am
I'm sure that would be pure entertainment considering he is now a star in the NFL. It was 50/50 from the rant from what i remember on him returning. Congrats to him and congrats to the rant for obviously giving Daniels the motivation to get better. Let's hope Nuss can find the same motivation to get better as Burrow and Daniels did in their final season at LSU. 
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Posted on 1/14/25 at 4:18 am to FLObserver
There will be some criticism from me in those threads, I wasn't wrong in what I said. He worked his arse off and fixed those issues. He should have won us a national championship. fricking defense.
Posted on 1/14/25 at 4:30 am to FLObserver
Posted on 1/14/25 at 5:05 am to Sun God
Thanks for the link. It was what i thought it would be about 50/50. Some nailed it and others missed it by a mile. The sad reality is he turned out great on his return and well we all know about the defense. Was a fun read with hindsight. 
This post was edited on 1/14/25 at 5:14 am
Posted on 1/14/25 at 5:14 am to FLObserver
Reading through that link shows most fans don’t know shite. Many people were willing to keep Walker Howard and let JD5 and Nuss walk. Imagine last years team with Walker Howard at QB.
Posted on 1/14/25 at 5:36 am to FLObserver
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he sad reality is he turned out great on
Yes he did. I would not call it sad. However, you coming on here trying to act like you knew he was going to be great is typical of this board. There was every reason in the world to believe that he wouldn't take the next step, after starting for the better part of 4 years prior to his breakout year. It is a fact that in 2022 he would not throw the ball downfield unless WR's were running wide open. Even when he did, the passes were largely not accurate. He was great at running and short passing in 2022. Credit to him for doing the work, and it paid off hugely. However, I don't see how you can call out posters in that thread based upon what we saw in 2022...and given that he was not a first year starter in 2022.
Posted on 1/14/25 at 5:53 am to Mandtgr47
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It is a fact that in 2022 he would not throw the ball downfield unless WR's were running wide open.
Many fans knew how good Nabers and BTJ were and couldn't help but to be frustrated Daniels would rarely give them at least a 50-50 ball a couple of times a game.
Posted on 1/14/25 at 6:08 am to FLObserver
I can't remember any other player making the transition Daniels did from his first to second year at LSU. Anyone who said that a guy who had been a multi-year starter at that point, an effective duel threat with consistent limitations, was going to make the jump into an incredible downfield passing threat and win the Heisman is full of shite. This thread sucks.
Posted on 1/14/25 at 6:29 am to lsufan1971
I was one of the few people on this board, and in my real life sports circle, that had an overwhelmingly high opinion on Jayden Daniel's potential ceiling. I watched multiple full games during his time at ASU, and tons of highlights throughout his time there. There wasn't a single pass Daniels threw in 2022 that i didn't see. Jayden Daniels in my eyes was literally a fingernail from being a generational talent.
He had 2 issues in 2022 that were not always a part of his game.
1) Hesitancy. JD was never hesitant at throwing the football at ASU. Whereas, when he got to LSU, he oftentimes would see his open read, show body language that he wanted to throw the ball, then abandon the pass. Often times he would tuck and run at this point after realizing he missed his throwing window.
2) Refusal to throw deep 50/50 balls. For some reason, JD was scared to put the ball in the receiver's hands if it meant there was any chance a DB could make a play on the ball. This lead to many, many overthrown. He never did this while at ASU, and I believe that his absolute lack of reciever talent at ASU in 2021 damaged his confidence in the deep ball.
There was only one thing Jayden needed to add to his arsenal after gaining back his confidence.
JD had to get better at going through his progressions while navigating a disorganized, but clean, pocket. Jayden had a terrible, although usually extremely productive, tendency to bail from disorganized pockets and run up field. He also needed to learn how to keep his eyes upfield when he decided to scramble.
He corrected everything his final year and then some. What an absolutely beautiful season to watch on offense.
He had 2 issues in 2022 that were not always a part of his game.
1) Hesitancy. JD was never hesitant at throwing the football at ASU. Whereas, when he got to LSU, he oftentimes would see his open read, show body language that he wanted to throw the ball, then abandon the pass. Often times he would tuck and run at this point after realizing he missed his throwing window.
2) Refusal to throw deep 50/50 balls. For some reason, JD was scared to put the ball in the receiver's hands if it meant there was any chance a DB could make a play on the ball. This lead to many, many overthrown. He never did this while at ASU, and I believe that his absolute lack of reciever talent at ASU in 2021 damaged his confidence in the deep ball.
There was only one thing Jayden needed to add to his arsenal after gaining back his confidence.
JD had to get better at going through his progressions while navigating a disorganized, but clean, pocket. Jayden had a terrible, although usually extremely productive, tendency to bail from disorganized pockets and run up field. He also needed to learn how to keep his eyes upfield when he decided to scramble.
He corrected everything his final year and then some. What an absolutely beautiful season to watch on offense.
Posted on 1/14/25 at 6:30 am to FLObserver
OKTiger worried about coaches ignoring the future (meaning Howard)
Posted on 1/14/25 at 6:38 am to offshoretrash
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There will be some criticism from me in those threads, I wasn't wrong in what I said.
You sure about that?
https://www.tigerdroppings.com/rant/display.aspx?sp=109639032&s=2&p=109638928#109639032
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He's not some 1st year freshman for frick sakes, he's a 5th year starter. He is what he is, nothing has changed since last year, he should be on the bench.
That was September 4th of 2023.
This post was edited on 1/14/25 at 6:44 am
Posted on 1/14/25 at 7:58 am to FLObserver
Here are some gems from a thread I made back in January of 2023.
https://www.tigerdroppings.com/rant/lsu-sports/2022-passing-stats-jayden-daniels-vs-stetson-bennett/106452005/
https://www.tigerdroppings.com/rant/lsu-sports/2022-passing-stats-jayden-daniels-vs-stetson-bennett/106452005/
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White Tiger
Posted on 1/12/23 at 3:37 pm to J2thaROC
I would take Stetson over Daniels. He understands the game. Daniels does not.
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White Tiger
Posted on 1/13/23 at 8:47 am to dmatt2021
As of now, DCs know that JD5 is no passing threat. They will plan accordingly. I think he will have a worse year in 23.
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LouisianaLonghorn
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Jayden is not a bad passing QB
He actually is. He's pretty bad.
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I believe he will after a full year with this coaching staff and an improved O-line.
He's a 5th year starter. The light bulb isn't suddenly coming on for this guy. Sorry, but it isn't, and if you are expecting a lot of improvement from him next season, you're going to be very disappointed.
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LSUStar
Posted on 1/14/23 at 12:07 pm to Drayton80
Another dispassionate analysis of Daniels the QB. He would be better served as a WR or maybe DB.
This post was edited on 1/14/25 at 8:45 am
Posted on 1/14/25 at 8:01 am to Hurricane2020
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He also needed to learn how to keep his eyes upfield when he decided to scramble.
He does this well now and often moves around to give his receivers time to get open. To the posters criticizing this at the time that was accurate. I do get the complaints about hindsight in this thread because Daniels did have a lot to work on before he started his last season at LSU and when this thread was made. Maybe he read the rant at the time and used it for motivation.
This post was edited on 1/14/25 at 8:03 am
Posted on 1/14/25 at 8:11 am to FLObserver
It would be great to compile a list of the "hot takes" but realized that would be a monumental task to copy and paste, there are so many!
Posted on 1/14/25 at 8:14 am to jmon
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It would be great to compile a list of the "hot takes" but realized that would be a monumental task to copy and paste, there are so many!
People (hell, coaches too) are wrong about players all the time . This would be a never ending job
This post was edited on 1/14/25 at 8:15 am
Posted on 1/14/25 at 8:17 am to FLObserver
60/40
40% had real beliefs in his abilities to take over the QB position.
40% had real beliefs in his abilities to take over the QB position.
Posted on 1/14/25 at 8:18 am to FLObserver
You can find bad takes on almost anything. Those same guys that were right about Jayden probably thought Kaleb Jackson was the next Fournette or Jardin Gilbert was the next Eric Reid
Posted on 1/14/25 at 8:26 am to Mandtgr47
Yes he did. I would not call it sad. However, you coming on here trying to act like you knew he was going to be great is typical of this board. There was every reason in the world to believe that he wouldn't take the next step, after starting for the better part of 4 years prior to his breakout year. It is a fact that in 2022 he would not throw the ball downfield unless WR's were running wide open. Even when he did, the passes were largely not accurate. He was great at running and short passing in 2022. Credit to him for doing the work, and it paid off hugely. However, I don't see how you can call out posters in that thread based upon what we saw in 2022...and given that he was not a first year starter in 2022.
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Agree. This states my take on it. I think hard-core football fans could see Jayden's faults in 22. All credit to him for making huge improvements to his weaknesses. He bloomed into the best QB in the nation in 23 and hasn't slowed down. That in no way changes the history of his play in 22 or before.
This thread sucks. Just another poster who revels in trying to look goid by making others look bad.
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Agree. This states my take on it. I think hard-core football fans could see Jayden's faults in 22. All credit to him for making huge improvements to his weaknesses. He bloomed into the best QB in the nation in 23 and hasn't slowed down. That in no way changes the history of his play in 22 or before.
This thread sucks. Just another poster who revels in trying to look goid by making others look bad.
Posted on 1/14/25 at 8:47 am to KWL85
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Agree. This states my take on it. I think hard-core football fans could see Jayden's faults in 22. All credit to him for making huge improvements to his weaknesses. He bloomed into the best QB in the nation in 23 and hasn't slowed down. That in no way changes the history of his play in 22 or before.
This thread sucks. Just another poster who revels in trying to look goid by making others look bad.
Rational people can comment on a player's shortcomings without completely writing him off. Many said he had hit his ceiling, 'is what he is', wasn't a QB, etc.
Posted on 1/14/25 at 9:07 am to Sun God
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LINK
Very happy with my performance in that thread
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