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re: Can we please try to make Ed Orgeron’s potential contract extension a major talking point?
Posted on 11/28/18 at 1:38 pm to Boomshockalocka
Posted on 11/28/18 at 1:38 pm to Boomshockalocka
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Lots, every year. When you take all the guys who have LSU offers who end up elsewhere it’s a pretty high number.
this is what is meant when they say recruiting coordinator is not completely off the hook.
is he to blame exclusively?
of course not.
just like it’s not fair to say that the guy managing the recruiting process has zero responsibility for any of our misses.
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Posted on 11/28/18 at 1:50 pm to Mo Jeaux
Well I know for a fact O said that he makes the decisions on who to recruit. No one else. He don’t take anybody’s ability to evaluate players over his own. Roster management is the task of the head coach. Sure they may take advice from other coaches. but the head coach is the guy who makes the call on we will prioritize player A over player B. Not the recruiting coordinator.
Posted on 11/28/18 at 1:51 pm to Boomshockalocka
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He don’t take anybody’s ability to evaluate players over his own.
This is frightening, and yet simultaneously completely believable.
Posted on 11/28/18 at 1:53 pm to Mo Jeaux
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This is frightening, and yet simultaneously completely believable.
said exact same thing at Ole Miss too
Posted on 11/28/18 at 1:55 pm to TigerJeff
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. Here's the question: is an extension needed to give him more credibility with recruits? So that's my concern: the affect of this on recruiting. That's why I don't think LSU fans should make a big demonstration against it, b/c that makes him look bad and could possibly affect recruiting
This is it. It doesn't matter what the average poster here says it's what the ADs of the world think and actually know from past experience. They understand it while the average LSU "fan" here doesn't have the mental capacity to make the connection. They can't see far enough into the future or comprehend the ramifications if not addressed so therefore they get on here and cry about the coach that they don't know why they hate him somebody just told them that O man is bad.
Posted on 11/28/18 at 1:55 pm to Mo Jeaux
Every head coaches makes that call. That is part of being the head coach.
Posted on 11/28/18 at 1:58 pm to bencoleman
We're in the CFP top 10 and about to play in a New Years Six bowl game. Are we sort of getting lucky? Maybe. But Jesus, some of you people are unbelievable. When coaches win, they get extensions. When they lose (which Orgeron has yet to do), they get shown the door.
Posted on 11/28/18 at 2:01 pm to TigerJeff
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I don't know the specifics of his contract, that is, I don't know when it ends.
After the 2021 season.
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Here's the question: is an extension needed to give him more credibility with recruits?
Not at this point in time.
Posted on 11/28/18 at 2:04 pm to bencoleman
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his is it. It doesn't matter what the average poster here says it's what the ADs of the world think and actually know from past experience. They understand it while the average LSU "fan" here doesn't have the mental capacity to make the connection. They can't see far enough into the future or comprehend the ramifications if not addressed so therefore they get on here and cry about the coach that they don't know why they hate him somebody just told them that O man is bad.
Oh please, Ben. You were asserting an idiotic stance last week that future coaches wouldn't come to LSU if O didn't get an extension now. That's ludicrous.
Posted on 11/28/18 at 2:06 pm to NotLSUSports
So basically, you just want to cripple the recruiting program...
Top players are not going to come here with a lame duck coach. If the Admin does not have the backing to keep the contract term extended to a players scholarship term then you pretty much have to fire him and move on. The other option is to accept low level performers because that is what you will be left with.
Not extendind CEOs contract will immediately rise to the top negative recruiting point for our competitors. The second one is The Rant...
Top players are not going to come here with a lame duck coach. If the Admin does not have the backing to keep the contract term extended to a players scholarship term then you pretty much have to fire him and move on. The other option is to accept low level performers because that is what you will be left with.
Not extendind CEOs contract will immediately rise to the top negative recruiting point for our competitors. The second one is The Rant...
Posted on 11/28/18 at 2:09 pm to GetmorewithLes
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Top players are not going to come here with a lame duck coach.
How would you classify a coach as “lame duck”?
Posted on 11/28/18 at 2:23 pm to NotLSUSports
It’s not a big deal to extend him as long as we keep the buyout low. Having him go all next year with his contract renewal as a question mark would hurt recruiting.
Posted on 11/28/18 at 2:24 pm to MOT
Generally a coach with under 3 yrs left on hi contract and no extension on the table is a lame duck. Those actions say that the coach has a defacto vote of no-confidence from his superiors. That may not apply to small or lower division schools but it certainly does the major ones
Posted on 11/28/18 at 2:25 pm to nwallb2
Why would it be a question mark next year?
Posted on 11/28/18 at 2:26 pm to GetmorewithLes
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Generally a coach with under 3 yrs left on his contract and no extension on the table is a lame duck.
So you agree the extension talk can wait until next year?
Posted on 11/28/18 at 2:28 pm to wasteland
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I never hope someone ... fails to provide for his family
i don’t know anyone hoping for this.
they’re just hoping he makes his money somewhere other than LSU.
Posted on 11/28/18 at 2:31 pm to GetmorewithLes
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Generally a coach with under 3 yrs left on hi contract and no extension on the table is a lame duck. Those actions say that the coach has a defacto vote of no-confidence from his superiors. That may not apply to small or lower division schools but it certainly does the major ones
See, this right here is why the extension argument is crap. If this is true, then opposing coaches would just point out that a buyout had not been increased and that the extension is just a façade.
Let's be honest. Most of these recruits don't understand contractual complexities.
Posted on 11/28/18 at 2:33 pm to wasteland
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I never hope someone fails much less fails to provide for his family. Only trashy people do that shite
It makes me sick to my stomach how people are here. I guess the internet brings out the worst in people. It's probably more that they were sorry all along. I will say this, the poliboard has been good to me. I can't post much over there anymore.
Posted on 11/28/18 at 2:36 pm to Mo Jeaux
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See, this right here is why the extension argument is crap. If this is true, then opposing coaches would just point out that a buyout had not been increased and that the extension is just a façade.
Let's be honest. Most of these recruits don't understand contractual complexities
Pure drivel.
If the ADs didn't believe the negative recruiting angle wasn't true they wouldn't feel the need to extend. The proof is in black and white on the contract extensions.
Posted on 11/28/18 at 2:40 pm to bencoleman
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If the ADs didn't believe the negative recruiting angle wasn't true they wouldn't feel the need to extend. The proof is in black and white on the contract extensions.
So there is absolutely no possibility that our AD is just incompetent?
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