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Can we please try to make Ed Orgeron’s potential contract extension a major talking point?
Posted on 11/28/18 at 11:42 am
Posted on 11/28/18 at 11:42 am
It seems like this is getting absolutely buried right now with talk of the officiating from the Texas A&M game and bowl game y’all.
But guys, extending Ed Orgeron is will have a massive impact on the program. I feel like most of the fan base is undecided about him, and there is talk of locking ourselves into him?
Anyone who calls in to radio shows or does Twitter should get on this and try to make it a talking point before Alleva just does it behind the scenes and signs him to a 7-year $49M 100% garanteed contract.
Keep in mind, we fired our last coach that averaged 10 wins after a 9-3 season. Why should we offer this one an extension before he even wins 10 games in any season ever?
But guys, extending Ed Orgeron is will have a massive impact on the program. I feel like most of the fan base is undecided about him, and there is talk of locking ourselves into him?
Anyone who calls in to radio shows or does Twitter should get on this and try to make it a talking point before Alleva just does it behind the scenes and signs him to a 7-year $49M 100% garanteed contract.
Keep in mind, we fired our last coach that averaged 10 wins after a 9-3 season. Why should we offer this one an extension before he even wins 10 games in any season ever?
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Posted on 11/28/18 at 11:43 am to NotLSUSports
Give it time, dude. It won't be a passing minor issue, I promise.
Posted on 11/28/18 at 11:43 am to NotLSUSports
Original topic. Hasn't been discussed yet. Bookmarked for future reference.
Posted on 11/28/18 at 11:44 am to NotLSUSports
I agree but we can do whatever we want and it won’t stop Alleva from doing what he wants. Alleva has one objective, to extend his own employment. If he feels extending Orgeron will make his job more secure, he’s gonna do it.
Posted on 11/28/18 at 11:46 am to NotLSUSports
1. You give contract extensions because you are afraid the coach will leave for another school.
2. This is Ed O’s dream job and he isn’t leaving for another school.
That’s why you don’t extend an offer, and it doesn’t matter in the long run.
2. This is Ed O’s dream job and he isn’t leaving for another school.
That’s why you don’t extend an offer, and it doesn’t matter in the long run.
Posted on 11/28/18 at 11:46 am to adamb2151
I haven’t heard it debated on any major media source yet. We need to make this debate heard BEFORE it happens, not after.
Posted on 11/28/18 at 11:50 am to bencoleman
You get negative recruiting against you if your admin doesn't have you on a longterm deal. Also agents know this and can negotiate contract extensions for longer deals while ADs will push for smaller buyouts. A contract extension isn't really that surprising. Just don't agree to some monstrous buyout like what Auburn is looking at now with Gus Malzahn. Who cares if Orgeron has a 7 year deal if the buy-out isn't unrealistic?
Posted on 11/28/18 at 11:50 am to NotLSUSports
Very premature to extend him. One of the LSU beat writers said (regarding Fargas) that normally schools extend a coach's contract by a year or two when they are within 2 years of the current contract's expiration date. He maid this point that Fargas was unique in that her contract was at a year left before the extension was proposed for her.
With two years left on his contract as of NEXT December, why not wait to evaluate him until then? Are they scared someone is going to come and take him? If so, great, we'll get money on the deal.
With two years left on his contract as of NEXT December, why not wait to evaluate him until then? Are they scared someone is going to come and take him? If so, great, we'll get money on the deal.
Posted on 11/28/18 at 11:52 am to GoldenGuy
quote:
1. You give contract extensions because you are afraid the coach will leave for another school.
2. This is Ed O’s dream job and he isn’t leaving for another school.
That’s why you don’t extend an offer, and it doesn’t matter in the long run.
And while he is on a 2-year deal, you will also expect him to still be able to convince a recruit on the fence to come play for LSU when my own AD isn't committed enough in me to guarantee I'll be around to see you graduate?
This post was edited on 11/28/18 at 11:53 am
Posted on 11/28/18 at 11:54 am to GoldenGuy
So, if you're in a job where all your peers routinely get raises and extensions for no better work than you do, but you don't get one, what message does that send to you and possible replacements, and how would it affect your performance? Put aside your hate long enough to quit being a fricking idior.
Posted on 11/28/18 at 11:54 am to Silvermoon_WhereRU
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You get negative recruiting against you if your admin doesn't have you on a longterm deal. Also agents know this and can negotiate contract extensions for longer deals while ADs will push for smaller buyouts. A contract extension isn't really that surprising. Just don't agree to some monstrous buyout like what Auburn is looking at now with Gus Malzahn. Who cares if Orgeron has a 7 year deal if the buy-out isn't unrealistic?
This. Your coaches should always be under minimum four-year term contract. If not, teams will negatively recruit you. Recruits want to know that the coaching staff they see is the coaching staff they'll have through their entire playing career in College.
The only gripe people should have and the only argument we should be looking at is how much the buyout will be. That will determine how fireable he will be if he fails.
Posted on 11/28/18 at 11:58 am to nola000
Yeah gotta do it recruiting purposes.
Imagine Jimbo with a recruit "hey I have 9 years remaining on my contract at A&M, Ed O only has two remaining oin his at LSU. He obviously doesn't have the support of the administration there. Blah blah blah"
Imagine Jimbo with a recruit "hey I have 9 years remaining on my contract at A&M, Ed O only has two remaining oin his at LSU. He obviously doesn't have the support of the administration there. Blah blah blah"
Posted on 11/28/18 at 11:59 am to NotLSUSports
A major talking point should be the fact that Avella only cares about money and corporatizing LSU athletics and focusing on just money. He does not care about how the teams do, as long as they bring I'm Monet he is golden. He needs to go, but I have a feeling that it starts from the top and until King Alexander is here Avella has a secure job. The worst part of this is King just got an extension.
Posted on 11/28/18 at 12:03 pm to NotLSUSports
Alleva just extended NC-F and she hasn't done shite to deserve it. He will extend CEO regardless of what Twitter or the talking heads have to say.
Posted on 11/28/18 at 12:04 pm to geauxtigers6492
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extended NC-F and she hasn't done shite to deserve it. He will extend CEO regardless of what Twitter or the talking heads have to say
As he should.
Posted on 11/28/18 at 12:04 pm to BigSlick
quote:
So, if you're in a job where all your peers routinely get raises and extensions for no better work than you do, but you don't get one, what message does that send to you and possible replacements, and how would it affect your performance? Put aside your hate long enough to quit being a fricking idior.
He could quit. Try his luck at one of those “other companies” (programs) that give raises all the time for mediocre work. See how that works out for him.
Posted on 11/28/18 at 12:05 pm to tigerbait1.6
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A major talking point should be the fact that Avella only cares about money and corporatizing LSU athletics and focusing on just money. He does not care about how the teams do, as long as they bring I'm Monet he is golden.
You know those two things go hand in hand right? Why do you think he fired Les and Johnnie Jones?
Posted on 11/28/18 at 12:06 pm to Silvermoon_WhereRU
I have heard the arguement about recruiting and not sure if i buy into it. I just dont see a recruit caring about that. But Coach O should get a raise and perhaps an extension, but like you said, with a easy small buyout. No need to 'lock' him into a long term deal
Posted on 11/28/18 at 12:07 pm to ipodking
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Yeah gotta do it recruiting purposes.
Imagine Jimbo with a recruit "hey I have 9 years remaining on my contract at A&M, Ed O only has two remaining oin his at LSU. He obviously doesn't have the support of the administration there. Blah blah blah"
This is the correct answer. It would not make me comfortable committing to a school/head coach is doesn't even have a contract there to see me graduate.
Posted on 11/28/18 at 12:09 pm to BigSlick
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Put aside your hate long enough to quit being a fricking idior
I don’t hate the guy, I only hate presumptuous idiots. So cool your bitchtits and kindly frick off.
You hold out a carrot and a stick out with the contract extensions before the bowl game. Produce, Carrot now. Fail, let’s see how you improve.
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