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re: Cajun Country Beams with Pride over Orgeron being hired as LSU head coach
Posted on 12/25/16 at 1:12 pm to nitwit
Posted on 12/25/16 at 1:12 pm to nitwit
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If Orgeron had been selected because he was qualified, instead of where he was born, it would would have been a greater accomplishment.
So Coach O wasn't chosen because he was qualified. Instead, according to you, Coach O was chosen because he was born a coonass. If Coach O hadn't been born a coonass, he never would have gotten the job. Just clarifying what you are saying here.
Posted on 12/25/16 at 2:06 pm to Damone
Smh. So much for being a professionally run organization.
Posted on 12/25/16 at 2:10 pm to Space Cowboy
quote:Not saying it was 100% the reason but if you don't think it played any part in the decision, you're kidding yourself. We missed out on the 2 we wanted and O's support from the fan base is likely what put him above the other candidates.
So Coach O wasn't chosen because he was qualified. Instead, according to you, Coach O was chosen because he was born a coonass. If Coach O hadn't been born a coonass, he never would have gotten the job. Just clarifying what you are saying here.
Posted on 12/25/16 at 2:12 pm to Space Cowboy
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So Coach O wasn't chosen because he was qualified. Instead, according to you, Coach O was chosen because he was born a coonass. If Coach O hadn't been born a coonass, he never would have gotten the job. Just clarifying what you are saying here.
a man named Smith from a tennessee with O's resume wouldn't even get a sniff at this job.
LSU would thank him for his work as interim, then go find a qualified head coach.
Posted on 12/25/16 at 2:42 pm to Mayfair2Pville
Major Applewhite? He's bigger than Wilson.
Posted on 12/25/16 at 2:49 pm to Melvin
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Not saying it was 100% the reason but if you don't think it played any part in the decision, you're kidding yourself. We missed out on the 2 we wanted and O's support from the fan base is likely what put him above the other candidates.
In my case we missed out on the one I wanted, which was Jimbo. I would have taken Herman, although I didn't think he was close to being proven. It would have been a mega chance. Nonetheless, neither one of those two wanted to come to LSU. So we were forced to compromise with Orgeron. At that point Orgeron became the obvious choice. If not Orgeron, then who else?
Indeed, you crybabies act as if hiring Orgeron was analogous to committing suicide, when the truth is we didn't have any other choice. There were other choices, but they weren't anymore qualified than Orgeron and definitely would have cost far more money. It's far better to spend the money on hiring outstanding coordinators to coach than it is to bring in an entire new coach and coaching staff to try to pick up the pieces on recruiting.
Posted on 12/25/16 at 3:03 pm to Nutriaitch
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a man named Smith from a tennessee with O's resume wouldn't even get a sniff at this job.
LSU would thank him for his work as interim, then go find a qualified head coach.
So if Coach O wasn't from South Louisiana, even if he had served successfully as the interim coach, he never would have been offered the job. Then who would be the coach according to you buddy? Jimbo? Herman? or Joe Blow from TimBukToo. Who'd be the coach right now buddy, and why would we be better off with Joe Blow as opposed to Coach O? What exactly makes him more qualified and a better coach, and how do you know that man? Because you are far more sophisticated and smarter than us low-information coonass people are. Because you don't eat gumbo and we do? Indeed, how do you know that? Because you talk with a drawl as opposed to a coonass accent?
Posted on 12/25/16 at 3:09 pm to Space Cowboy
This shits embarrassing.
Posted on 12/25/16 at 3:28 pm to Space Cowboy
We will never know who might have been chosen, had Alleva actually conducted a serious search of HC, instead of taking the path of least resistance.
No other major program in the country would hire Orgeron as HC, but he has two very good coordinators, and I hope he outperforms his resume.
No other major program in the country would hire Orgeron as HC, but he has two very good coordinators, and I hope he outperforms his resume.
Posted on 12/25/16 at 3:46 pm to scott2274
Cajun butt hurt, that's you.
Posted on 12/25/16 at 4:28 pm to saint tiger225
Butt hurt?? For what?? Don't tell me u have a laettner poster in your room to. Why would I be butt hurt? Coach O is from my hometown. I've been pro Coach O from the start. I'm talking shite to the ones that are butt hurt. U obviously upside down in this thread. For the record, if Coach O would have been a bad hire, I would've been a realist and recognized that there were more qualified candidates than him. The fact is, factoring in time and the situation we were in Coach O was our best option. It ain't us supposingly dumbasses from his hometown as y'all geniuses call us fault that their is a bunch of butt hurt on this board. Ain't no butt hurt coming from me. If u think their is than please elaborate.
Posted on 12/25/16 at 4:28 pm to CaptainPanic
could be worse, he could be from Alabama !
Posted on 12/25/16 at 4:32 pm to Space Cowboy
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At that point Orgeron became the obvious choice. If not Orgeron, then who else?
Why does this keep getting posted as if it's some kind of impossible question to answer?
The real question is, if he was not currently ensconced in the HC office as interim, where exactly on the list of potential head coaches would Ed Orgeron have been? if you can honestly say the man would have been 3, then this is a sensible position to hold on your part. Otherwise, it's just a plain ole dishonest thing to even ask.
We all know though, he most certainly would NOT have been 3. Hell, were he not already on staff, he would almost certainly not have been on the damn list. After all, we weren't going to go out and hire someone else's DL coach as the follow-up to Miles and Saban, were we?
So, to answer your question, if you miss on Jimbo and Herman you move on to #3, then #4, then #5, then #6 and so on and so forth until you get to Miles' former DL coach on the list as each and every other man on your list you supposedly had been compiling since week 4 told you know. My guess...you don't get passed someone at the 5th or 6th spot before what you're now willing to pay matches a coach with a successful rack record looking to move up or change venues. Oregeon, to be blunt, is an "if all else fails" type of hire, and given the money we had to spend AND the time we had to vet candidates, there's no reason we went that route.
Please quit pretending that Oregron was the only reasonable candidate once we whiffed on the top two choices. Had LSU not stepped up and hired him, there is no reasonable person who would tell you that he'd currently be entertaining offers from any other Power 5 conference team.
Posted on 12/25/16 at 4:49 pm to nitwit
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We will never know who might have been chosen, had Alleva actually conducted a serious search of HC, instead of taking the path of least resistance.
No other major program in the country would hire Orgeron as HC, but he has two very good coordinators, and I hope he outperforms his resume.
What you mean, no coaching search? Alleva conducted a coaching search. He tried to hire Jimbo and he tried to hire an unproven coach named Herman. Both of them didn't want to come to LSU. Too bad. Of course, you losers claim that Alleva wasn't really trying because he planned to hire coach O since the beginning. You don't know that. You are just guessing that because you didn't get who you wanted.
So after those two weren't coming we should have continued looking and humiliating ourselves even though there was no one else? For who? Who was more qualified than Coach O. The truth is other than coach O there was no other coach worthy of going after. It would have been stupid to ignore the fact that coach O had turned around our season. Not only that, but the players and former players wanted coach O as well. You kids are so immature and so utterly pathetic that's it's embarrassing. You idiots are just crybabies and pathetic sore losers. I've never seen anyone act so immature in my life.
So who would have been a better hire than coach O according to you? Name them. You sorry losers keep denigrating coach O, yet you don't even know if there were anyone else interested in the job. Put your money where your mouth is and sell us on who should have been hired before coach O. Go ahead.
Posted on 12/25/16 at 4:55 pm to Space Cowboy
are you really arguing that O has the 3rd best resume of coaches out there?
we didn't do a search according to all reports.
there was no serious talks with Jimbo.
and prior to the florida loss, there was no plans to talk to Herman either.
turned out season around?
remove the "names" of the teams O beat and look at it objectively. He beat 4 teams with rush defenses ranked below 85 in the country. Miles would have done the exact same thing.
the players wanted him?
they wanted Miles too.
we didn't do a search according to all reports.
there was no serious talks with Jimbo.
and prior to the florida loss, there was no plans to talk to Herman either.
turned out season around?
remove the "names" of the teams O beat and look at it objectively. He beat 4 teams with rush defenses ranked below 85 in the country. Miles would have done the exact same thing.
the players wanted him?
they wanted Miles too.
Posted on 12/25/16 at 4:57 pm to Space Cowboy
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So after those two weren't coming we should have continued looking and humiliating ourselves even though there was no one else? For who? Who was more qualified than Coach O. The truth is other than coach O there was no other coach worthy of going after. It would have been stupid to ignore the fact that coach O had turned around our season. Not only that, but the players and former players wanted coach O as well. You kids are so immature and so utterly pathetic that's it's embarrassing. You idiots are just crybabies and pathetic sore losers. I've never seen anyone act so immature in my life.
There is so much stupid in this...
Ed Orgeon was on NO ONE's radar as a head coach, but you're suggesting that NO ONE was more qualified to to lead LSU than him?
Either, everyone else was THAT wrong about the guy all these years, or LSU is such a bad place to coach that your point is valid in that Orgeron was literally the only option. Frankly, I'm still choosing door #3 in which our AD was negligent in his duties and saddled the program with a guy who no one else wanted for good reason.
Feel free to continue to spin this anyway you want, but we all know that LSU just hired a guy no one else wanted.
Posted on 12/25/16 at 5:04 pm to Space Cowboy
quote:
Alleva conducted a coaching search.
Posted on 12/25/16 at 5:07 pm to MOT
I feel like this could be the plot for a waterboy sequel, but what do I know I'm drunk.
Posted on 12/25/16 at 5:25 pm to Space Cowboy
i don't know who would be the coach. but i'm really confident it wouldn't be O.
he got exactly zero of the criteria that Alleva said he was looking for when Miles was fired.
the ground swell of support for O was all about "from here" "one of us" etc. etc.
remove that heritage from the O package and his support disappears.
nobody has offered any solid football reasons for him to be top 3 candidate.
he got exactly zero of the criteria that Alleva said he was looking for when Miles was fired.
the ground swell of support for O was all about "from here" "one of us" etc. etc.
remove that heritage from the O package and his support disappears.
nobody has offered any solid football reasons for him to be top 3 candidate.
Posted on 12/25/16 at 5:28 pm to Damone
No they're not. Some ignorant shrimp boot wearing ones are, but not all.
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