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re: Brandon Harris NOT attending Manning Camp

Posted on 7/10/15 at 5:32 pm to
Posted by winston318
Oklahoma City,OK
Member since Sep 2009
3175 posts
Posted on 7/10/15 at 5:32 pm to
Why isn't CLM at a coaches camp
Posted by vjp819
South Sec. 414 / Alex Box Sec. 210
Member since Nov 2003
10882 posts
Posted on 7/10/15 at 5:55 pm to
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If we've been sending 'em in the past, I'm in favor of stopping.


i'm with this guy. it hasn't shown to help with any we've sent there before.
Posted by GeeOH
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2013
13376 posts
Posted on 7/10/15 at 6:12 pm to
quote:

Why so much hate??? Oh I see Peyton didn't come to LSU and you are still mad about it....


He's a big dick. The LSU thing? Sure, I hate that he left LA for an SEC school other than the school his dad starred at.

I couldn't care less about those who turned their backs on LA. (although I did bang Cooper's gf/fiance one evening)
Posted by burke985
UGANDA
Member since Aug 2011
24747 posts
Posted on 7/10/15 at 6:15 pm to
fuk the mannings and their non LSU attending selves
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56856 posts
Posted on 7/10/15 at 7:15 pm to
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There was another position on Harris. It was, if you want to start him at Auburn, you have to start him against NMST.


They didn't want to start Harris. They were compelled to start him when Jennings turned it over 3 times against New Mexico State while Harris led the team to TDs on all 7 of his drives, throwing 3 TDs and running for 2 himself.

quote:

Anyone could have seen it coming.



This is so wrong for so many reasons. First, there was a VERY, VERY strong consensus that Harris needed to start. There wasn't much debating going on that week. There was concern that Miles wouldn't do the obviously right thing prior to naming Harris the starter. To deny this is delusional. People were very optimistic at that point despite his youth and inexperience. Nobody expected him to melt down to the level that he did.

Second, even if you make the case that it should have been expected, what do you think a reasonable expectation would have been for Jennings who just melted down against NMSU at home? The guy had < 50% passing percentage 3 of the 5 games before that and his confidence was shot. Everything is relative.

The staff reasonably thought that a scaled back passing game with Harris at the helm was probably the best option given what they had seen up to that point. That was a very reasonable decision, IMO.
Posted by dagrippa
Saigon
Member since Nov 2004
11305 posts
Posted on 7/10/15 at 7:19 pm to
quote:

He seems like a very intelligent kid in every interview I have seen of him.


The ability to speak, discuss current events, do complicated math etc does not always translate to memorizing plays and signals, reads, and reactions.
Posted by lsucoonass
shreveport and east texas
Member since Nov 2003
68513 posts
Posted on 7/10/15 at 7:23 pm to
Dumbass
Posted by chilge1
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2009
12137 posts
Posted on 7/10/15 at 7:28 pm to
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The staff reasonably thought that a scaled back passing game with Harris at the helm was probably the best option given what they had seen up to that point. That was a very reasonable decision, IMO.


We averaged over 7 ypc on 1st down rushes in the first half...

Posted by Draconian Sanctions
Markey's bar
Member since Oct 2008
84929 posts
Posted on 7/10/15 at 8:56 pm to
Nearly 200 upvotes
Posted by BayouBengal99
Crowley
Member since Oct 2007
9125 posts
Posted on 7/10/15 at 10:34 pm to
Here's the problem with playing Harris all year not knowing what the hell he's doing. You can easily get a great talented player hurt badly real quick!! They would have targeted him more and more. A coach should never do put a kid in that position and I know Les Miles wouldn't unless he had zero choice. Then if Harris would have gotten hurt how would that look for future recruits as Les is talking to their moms promising to have their best interests? No I don't blame the coaches for not playing him the rest of the year. Then if you play both then niether would have gotten enough time to really improve, and possibly hurt them both.
Posted by therick711
South
Member since Jan 2008
25311 posts
Posted on 7/10/15 at 10:44 pm to
I'm not sure how that is responsive. Bottomline was if you didn't start him at NMST, you don't start him his first game at the toughest western road venue.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56856 posts
Posted on 7/10/15 at 10:45 pm to
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Here's the problem with playing Harris all year not knowing what the hell he's doing. You can easily get a great talented player hurt badly real quick!!




Is there a team in college football that runs a scheme that protects its QB more than LSU?

Posted by RedTigerRulz
BFE
Member since Oct 2013
15317 posts
Posted on 7/10/15 at 11:58 pm to
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Bottomline was if you didn't start him at NMST, you don't start him his first game at the toughest western road venue.




Ding ding ding we have a winner!!!!!!
Posted by mvice2lsuPURPLERAIN
Bayou Towers,Houma,La.
Member since Nov 2007
120 posts
Posted on 7/11/15 at 12:10 am to
Anything the Mannings do is a joke to me. Never had any use for them.
Posted by skinny domino
sebr
Member since Feb 2007
14351 posts
Posted on 7/11/15 at 1:42 am to
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Anything the Mannings do is a joke to me. Never had any use for them.
I will never forget motherfricking eli leading the chant "boomer sooners" on the eve of us waxing OK arse in the dome - yeah frick the Mannings and the mule they rode in on.
Posted by semjase
New Smyrna Beach FL
Member since May 2014
11092 posts
Posted on 7/11/15 at 3:37 am to
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What is the deal with everyone saying he has trouble with the playbook? Is this just the rant talking out their arse or is their some evidence of this?
He gets a pass for being a true freshman last season, but there were plenty of reports from those close to the program and who attended practices that he didn't know the PB during the season and in the Spring.

No more excuses this season. Time to put up or shut up. SOGOTP!
Posted by semjase
New Smyrna Beach FL
Member since May 2014
11092 posts
Posted on 7/11/15 at 4:15 am to
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Any college player who is there was invited and is there to serve as a counselor, not an attendee.
What's Rebal Kelly going to teach those HS kids? Temper management techniques and AK47 maintenance?
Posted by LCTFAN
New Iberia
Member since Mar 2013
2741 posts
Posted on 7/11/15 at 7:17 am to
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What is the deal with everyone saying he has trouble with the playbook?


It is the same ole line used to defend the coaches decision to play a player who is not as talented. This has been going on for years. Last year a slightly different version was that Welter could line up the players. Now Beckwith is a star player

We have no idea why coaches start who they start but not knowing the plays is totally different than getting behind the center and being nervous or confused with the defense.

To me the staff feels more comfortable with Jennings because he is calm running the team, his problem is throwing the football or finding receivers and making the quick and right decision. Every fan on the board and every LSU coach can see Harris has a better arm and can run faster.

Harris is smart, Harris has great talent and he knows the play book. Harris needs game experience and McNeese will be a great learning game and we follow with two very tough games with Miss St and Auburn.

If Harris can play good the first 3 games then we will be fine.

Jennings will get reinstated and if Harris struggles against Miss St or Auburn then Les will pull Harris and Jennings will take over.

My hope for LSU is that Harris plays well as he is our best bet to win a BCS title. Solid QB play is needed to rise to the top and win the big game.



Posted by 1badboy
In space
Member since Jul 2014
8103 posts
Posted on 7/11/15 at 9:16 am to
It didn't help JJ!
Posted by GoldenBoy
Winning!
Member since Nov 2004
42012 posts
Posted on 7/11/15 at 10:21 am to
Gunner Kiel is there and Les Miles didn't want Brandon Harris around people who don't necessarily have the chest to lead a program.
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