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re: Any word on Harold Perkins?
Posted on 12/25/24 at 8:20 am to TomballTiger
Posted on 12/25/24 at 8:20 am to TomballTiger
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Baker is not good either
Always someone else’s fault. It is between his ears and his eye discipline. He constantly overruns plays and leaves his gap assignment. Weeks does the same.
Saying Baker or House are bad position coaches is plainly intellectually dishonest.
Let’s see what a potential NFL HoF and a more recent player who “didn’t like to play for him” at LSU has to say.
House had them 15th in the country in defensive effenciencyin his first season. There were injuries year 2. Here is a quote from Maason Smith post draft.
“ “He’s always kept it real with me, I love to have him in my corner again and I’m grateful for it. I’m probably going to get on the phone with him after this because that’s my guy. Playing with the whole family, his sons, his daughter, Miss Jess, they always just allowed me and showed me open arms when I came to their home and everything.” said Smith.”
Here are quotes from Ty Mathieu.
LINK
“Let me tell you, I caught maybe 14-15 interceptions in the last two-three years,” Mathieu said. “Ten of those came on first and second down. Coach House was our first and second down, drop-back coach, he’s the guy that comes up to the front of the room and gives you the notes.”
“If you’re paying attention and being attentive, you can really capitalize on that. Most people don’t know this, but most of the interceptions that I caught on first and second down, had nothing to do with me. I just happened to be listening to Coach House. Understanding what the team wants. He’s one of those dudes though, he’s going to give you like golden nuggets.”
LINK
Then Baker, who had awesome defenses at Mizzou is all of a sudden a bad coach? Could it be the players are undisciplined but the best you have on the roster? LSU has had a depth, quality depth at that, issue since 2021.
This post was edited on 12/25/24 at 11:08 am
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Posted on 12/25/24 at 8:55 am to Bert Macklin FBI
quote:All but guarantees its complete bullshite
Moscona
Posted on 12/25/24 at 10:04 am to Tiger1988
quote:
Always someone else’s fault. It is between his ears and his eye discipline. He constantly overruns plays and leaves his gap assignment. Weeks does the same.
This is true.
Posted on 12/25/24 at 11:36 am to Toadfrggy82
You have to realize that he was a fall guy and that’s hard to come back from when dealing with the Rant. 2023 was blamed on the D, he was the best player on D and a lot of fans decided that if he didn’t have 3 sacks every game it meant he was shite. You also had a faction of people who were defending House so of course it was Perkins fault again that House was terrible on D. You also had people who defend Kelly’s every move so Perk moving positions was actually the right thing to do and Perk just sucked or it was Perkins decision to move even though every bit of evidence says the exact opposite. It’s the classic fall guy situation, the Rant branded him so no facts are allowed and the entire perception of HP has been completely distorted.
Posted on 12/25/24 at 6:40 pm to Madking
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You also had a faction of people who were defending House so of course it was Perkins fault again that House was terrible on D. You also had people who defend Kelly’s every move so Perk moving positions was actually the right thing to do and Perk just sucked or it was Perkins decision to move even though every bit of evidence says the exact opposite. It’s the classic fall guy situation, the Rant branded him so no facts are allowed and the entire perception of HP has been completely distorted.
The theme on this years defense;
DYJ = Harold Perkins
What’s classic is people defending a terrible defender and not believing a guy that one of LSUs Mt Rushmore defensive players had to say.
Perkins is and has never been a LB. He isn’t a DE. He is a hybrid safety. He is good in pass defense and “could” be a good in the box safety IF HE IMPROVES HIS EYE DISCIPLINE. As a LB, he overruns plays, loses gap integrity and gets caught in the wash because of his lack of strength.
Here are quotes from Ty Mathieu.
LINK
“Let me tell you, I caught maybe 14-15 interceptions in the last two-three years,” Mathieu said. “Ten of those came on first and second down. Coach House was our first and second down, drop-back coach, he’s the guy that comes up to the front of the room and gives you the notes.”
“If you’re paying attention and being attentive, you can really capitalize on that. Most people don’t know this, but most of the interceptions that I caught on first and second down, had nothing to do with me. I just happened to be listening to Coach House. Understanding what the team wants. He’s one of those dudes though, he’s going to give you like golden nuggets.”
Posted on 12/25/24 at 7:01 pm to Stirling
Why can’t we just let Perkins do what he’s good at? Let him rush the passer as a pass rush specialist on the edge.
Maybe we could also let him run and make tackles on special teams since he’s a pretty fast, athletic guy.
I think the linebacker experiment definitely needs to end.
Maybe we could also let him run and make tackles on special teams since he’s a pretty fast, athletic guy.
I think the linebacker experiment definitely needs to end.
This post was edited on 12/25/24 at 7:11 pm
Posted on 12/25/24 at 7:06 pm to cbree88
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Why can’t we just let Perkins do what he’s good at? Let him rush the passer a a pass rush specialist on the edge.
Not at all what he’s best at
Posted on 12/25/24 at 7:10 pm to CatfishJohn
What else has he ever been good at at LSU?
Posted on 12/25/24 at 7:41 pm to Tiger1988
Simeon Rice and Greg Hardy had a lot of nice things to say about Lou Tepper as a DC too. Don’t see any quotes of TM7 saying Perk sucks in that post so If you’re just going to knight for House that’s fine but Perkins was the best player on that defense so not sure your logic makes any sense. As far as your assessment of what Perk is, the NFL disagrees but I know that standard goes back and forth here depending on which side of the narrative is feeds into.
This post was edited on 12/25/24 at 8:06 pm
Posted on 12/25/24 at 7:45 pm to TomballTiger
quote:
Baker is not good either
this coming from an awful poster.
Posted on 12/25/24 at 7:45 pm to Cadello
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They should use him like Dallas uses Micah Parsons.
You mean use him as a linebacker that rushes the passer? They tried that already.
Posted on 12/25/24 at 9:12 pm to Madking
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Simeon Rice and Greg Hardy had a lot of nice things to say about Lou Tepper as a DC too. Don’t see any quotes of TM7 saying Perk sucks in that post so If you’re just going to knight for House that’s fine but Perkins was the best player on that defense so not sure your logic makes any sense. As far as your assessment of what Perk is, the NFL disagrees but I know that standard goes back and forth here depending on which side of the narrative is feeds into.
I’m not “knighting” for anyone. I’m stating what has happened to him. What everyone sees. He was an anomaly his freshman season that people caught up to. His strength has not increased as it should have.
There are dozens of plays of him losing gap integrity and over pursuing plays.
His isn’t strong enough and is a poor diagnoses of plays - which is critical for LBs.
How about his teammate last season:
Here is a quote from Maason Smith post draft.
“ “He’s always kept it real with me, I love to have him in my corner again and I’m grateful for it. I’m probably going to get on the phone with him after this because that’s my guy. Playing with the whole family, his sons, his daughter, Miss Jess, they always just allowed me and showed me open arms when I came to their home and everything.” said Smith.”
Posted on 12/25/24 at 9:15 pm to cbree88
quote:
Why can’t we just let Perkins do what he’s good at? Let him rush the passer as a pass rush specialist on the edge.
Because LSU has tried that, and after the opponents knew that all they had to do was to block him, LSU went away from that. Perkins can't get through blockers...when he was disrupting the backfield, that was when he was coming in untouched. That only works for so long....OC and position coaches of the opponents aren't as dumb as some people think.
Posted on 12/25/24 at 9:18 pm to extremelsu
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have a buddy who was friends with a girl that went out with jabrill peppers.
He sent her a nude (she screenshotted) saying “it’s not even hard lmao”. Thing was a torpedo
lol what a post
Posted on 12/25/24 at 9:20 pm to Tiger1988
Players saying nice things about their coaches doesn’t mean anything. What did Wingo say about him, wasn’t too good was it? What did Brandon Taylor say about his Defense, crushed him but that has nothing to do with Perk. You’re also ignoring the fact that he switched positions after his freshman season but even still was the most productive player by far on D, still had the most sacks and highest win rate on the team in the pass rush. House’s defense was awful but Perks numbers were still very good in both seasons.
This post was edited on 12/25/24 at 9:24 pm
Posted on 12/25/24 at 10:08 pm to BPTiger
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have a buddy who was friends with a girl that went out with jabrill peppers. He sent her a nude (she screenshotted) saying “it’s not even hard lmao”. Thing was a torpedo lol what a post
This actually has a chance to sneak up and become one of the top threads of the Holidays, and I think the greatness has passed some right on by…reminds me of the this classic…
Larry Brown’s Crank
And for the record, I would absolutely be stoked if Perkins comes back…dude is an elite athlete that can change the game instantly…they need to find a spot for him to excel at..on the coaches
This post was edited on 12/25/24 at 10:13 pm
Posted on 12/26/24 at 8:10 am to Harry3
The Harold Perkins takes on this board are laughable.
Imagine not letting Von Miller or Lawrence Taylor, do what they do best.
1. Harold Perkins’ impact as a freshman was all world. Most of the current Perkins critics, have a short memory of how the felt about him literally 16 months ago.
2. As LSU fans, we spent his entire sophomore season in the twilight zone, wondering why the best pass rusher on the team was dropping into coverage 95% of the time. This was the worst coaching decision in the world. Not at all a Perkins decision. The fact that he still had 5.5 half sacks while being totally hamstrung by the coaching staff is a miracle.
3. You could watch football for another 100 years and not see someone make the play Perkins made during the opener vs USC. On an option play, Perkins tackles both the QB and the running back at the mesh point, the QB finally keeps the ball, the RB breaks free from the scrum as Perkins is tackling the QB, before hitting the ground, the QB then tosses the ball to the RB, Perkins leaves the QB and tackles the RB. WTF!?!?!
Yet we think we were better without him, despite being killed by running QBs all year without him.
Other points.
1. Many times when he rushes, other Tigers break free because of the extra attention he requires. Also consider the many occasions where the pressure he causes by pursuit literally runs the opposing QB into waiting teammates.
2. The number of holding penalty’s he draws while rushing are just as impactful as a sack. Sadly, they rarely rushed him during year 2.
3. Anyone thinking that a defense gets better, by taking away a player like Harold Perkins, is hard to imagine talking to in real life.
Long live the internet.
Imagine not letting Von Miller or Lawrence Taylor, do what they do best.
1. Harold Perkins’ impact as a freshman was all world. Most of the current Perkins critics, have a short memory of how the felt about him literally 16 months ago.
2. As LSU fans, we spent his entire sophomore season in the twilight zone, wondering why the best pass rusher on the team was dropping into coverage 95% of the time. This was the worst coaching decision in the world. Not at all a Perkins decision. The fact that he still had 5.5 half sacks while being totally hamstrung by the coaching staff is a miracle.
3. You could watch football for another 100 years and not see someone make the play Perkins made during the opener vs USC. On an option play, Perkins tackles both the QB and the running back at the mesh point, the QB finally keeps the ball, the RB breaks free from the scrum as Perkins is tackling the QB, before hitting the ground, the QB then tosses the ball to the RB, Perkins leaves the QB and tackles the RB. WTF!?!?!
Yet we think we were better without him, despite being killed by running QBs all year without him.
Other points.
1. Many times when he rushes, other Tigers break free because of the extra attention he requires. Also consider the many occasions where the pressure he causes by pursuit literally runs the opposing QB into waiting teammates.
2. The number of holding penalty’s he draws while rushing are just as impactful as a sack. Sadly, they rarely rushed him during year 2.
3. Anyone thinking that a defense gets better, by taking away a player like Harold Perkins, is hard to imagine talking to in real life.
Long live the internet.
This post was edited on 12/26/24 at 8:13 am
Posted on 12/26/24 at 2:02 pm to idoubleu
A very good post by idoubleuLSU.
I agree wholeheartedly with it.
Just adding that Perkins did have one big interception vs. Auburn and it was a key play in helping LSU clinch the victory.
I agree wholeheartedly with it.
Just adding that Perkins did have one big interception vs. Auburn and it was a key play in helping LSU clinch the victory.
This post was edited on 12/26/24 at 2:05 pm
Posted on 12/26/24 at 2:14 pm to idoubleu
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Yet we think we were better without him, despite being killed by running QBs all year without him
20 carries for 155 yards and 4 TDs. That was in 2023 when he was a starter on defense. Let’s not pretend he impacted mobile QBs as much as you’re suggesting
Posted on 12/26/24 at 2:30 pm to idoubleu
He should be used as a spy for running QB's next year if he comes back.
If we play a non mobile QB, then let him speed rush the QB.
If we play a non mobile QB, then let him speed rush the QB.
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