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re: Alleva, O, Canada, Aranda meet to "get on the same page"

Posted on 10/4/17 at 1:22 pm to
Posted by LSUStar
Medellin
Member since Sep 2009
11405 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 1:22 pm to
Give me some evidence
Posted by navy
Parts Unknown, LA
Member since Sep 2010
31157 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 1:34 pm to
Why is this discussed on the SEC coaches teleconference?


Why is this not kept internal?



"Mornin' competition...guess what? We're all fricked up!"
Posted by TigerCliff777
Member since Feb 2013
4676 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 1:38 pm to
Orgeron - Idiot
Alleva - Idiot
Aranda - Socially inept
Canada - Apparently overruled at every turn


I agree with this

this meeting screams that CEO does not have a clue

Posted by Freauxzen
Washington
Member since Feb 2006
38370 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 1:41 pm to
5 games into the season and people aren't all on the same page.....

Sounds like there wasn't much of a plan to start. Even some poor semblance of a plan would have at least meant something was generally understood amongst leadership.
Posted by nitwit
Member since Oct 2007
13038 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 1:50 pm to
Nothing to see here.
If you are a head coach or a coordinator and the team is not playing well, the first thing you do is set up a meeting with the AD and ask him "why".
Joe Alleva will have all this straight in no time.
Alleva is mainly known a "Search" guy, but he has always been strong on x's and o's.
I feel better already...
Posted by Nuts4LSU
Washington, DC
Member since Oct 2003
25468 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 1:52 pm to
quote:

They know their heads are on the chopping block.



Given that 90% of what they "know" is wrong, let's hope and pray that this is part of the 10%.
Posted by TigerAxeOK
Where I lay my head is home.
Member since Dec 2016
35007 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 2:13 pm to
Response to OP...

Is this actual real life right now? Who else feels like this is third grade tattletell bullshite with kids in the principal's office? Serious.

What in the holy frick is wrong with this situation? Everything, that's what. "I thought it was very positive"? I'm fricking sure you did, Rosy Finch. I wonder what Dave and Matt thought about it? Probably felt like little brothers getting scolded by daddy for something big brother did.

This shite is preposterous and beyond belief. These are grown arse men who are supposed to already be well versed on how to do their jobs. Yet they have to have a midseason meeting to recalibrate? Horse shite! I know one of the four in that meeting actually knows how to do his job. And one I'm willing to give the benefit of the doubt. But the other two have proven to be failures as leaders in their current appointed positions.

This is a disaster. I can't believe how quickly this has gone to hell, nor how far we have fallen.
Posted by atltiger6487
Member since May 2011
19672 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 2:30 pm to
quote:

Yeah poor O. He gets millions for getting fired, I'm sure he will lose many nights of sleep over the fear of losing his job.

yes, O's buyout is sickening, but O already has been making great money and a year's salary as HC and he's set for life.

I'd suspect O is more concerned with being a complete failure for the second time. And that's got to be very hard to accept.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not sympathetic to O. I was vehemently against his hire and want him gone.

I'm just saying that money isn't likely to cure the embarrassment and humiliation that O's going through.
Posted by LSUEnvy
Hou via Lake Chas
Member since May 2011
12495 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 2:33 pm to
I'm wondering if Alleva called this meeting so it looks like he is being proactive in righting the ship. But yeah I'm sure Dave and Matt are thinking WTF did I get into
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
107798 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 2:38 pm to
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I'd suspect O is more concerned with being a complete failure for the second time. And that's got to be very hard to accept.

It honestly has to be tough.

He is on pace to being the worst coach ever at 2 separate schools
Posted by TigerFan55555
Tomball, TX
Member since Nov 2008
9827 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 2:46 pm to
quote:

Alleva is rattled!


you bet your arse he is...
Posted by Javzz
Member since Jan 2006
1596 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 2:57 pm to
I'm trying to figure out which is more pathetic. O bringing Alleva in to try to set his coordinators in line or O bringing Derek fricking Ponamsky into his interview for the head coaching position of a major program in CFB
Posted by Lonnie4LSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
9525 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 3:02 pm to
For a man a yr. ago making like $300,000 a year, 3.5 million with a 12 million buyout is it pretty freaking big thing to any normal human being. imo
Posted by bass
Member since Oct 2016
4649 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 3:06 pm to
So let's get this straight...

Not only does Orgeron rely on his assistants to coach, now he relies on his AD to motivate his assistants?
Posted by jonboy
Member since Sep 2003
7380 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 3:08 pm to
I wonder if this has to do with the altercation last week at practice? Alleva telling them Ed is back on his meds and promises not to try and fight anyone again.
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
64188 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 3:26 pm to
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Canada - Apparently overruled at every turn


This isn’t true at all. Orgeron overruled him once to simplify and remove all the shifts for one half of football, which is what all the armchair coaches on here wanted.
Posted by Dubaitiger
Abu Dhabi, UAE
Member since Nov 2005
5198 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 3:28 pm to
Why in the hell do we know about this?

Should have been done at 3AM while all are sleeping. God help us but I do not want to know about this kind of meeting. The head coach should fix things himself without the AD getting involved in getting the Coach and his 2 coordinators on the same page? WTF

With that said, and now we know about it, maybe they ironed out a huge problem that evidently has developed... So they nip it at the bud and come out swinging with Offensive & Defensive fireworks this week in that nasty swamp!
Posted by lrlafayette
Member since Sep 2017
297 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 3:29 pm to
Im call bullshi... yea that what O says. He's a con man that says what people like you wanna hear
Posted by Chimlim
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jul 2005
17772 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 3:36 pm to
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According to reports, players said they ran a different offense during the first half of the loss to Troy, and Orgeron said he was making changes to Canada's scheme, which he brought over from Pitt following last season.


Orgeron hasn't learned shite from his Ole Miss stint. This is EXACTLY what he did at Ole Miss. One of his selling points to Alleva was that he would pretty much not do anything and just let the coordinators do all the work. Essentially, he would be a recruiting coordinator who does press conferences.

While I hope a lot was gained out of this meeting, I have little confidence there was. Orgeron is clearly not head coach material, and Alleva knows he fricked up. Right now our best shot is let Aranda be head coach of the defense and Canada be head coach of the offense. O is in over his head, and Alleva and the board seriously, seriously fricked this program giving O such a huge buyout.
This post was edited on 10/4/17 at 3:39 pm
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
85173 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 3:37 pm to
quote:

at least it's correct and makes sense.

better than the last bozo.


Lol, for all your bitching over the years, this is what LSU is now. Joe Alleva having to step in 5 games into the season to get the coaches on the same page.. Just shut the frick up and stop being a fan. Dumbasses like you are why LSU is in this mess.
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