re: Alleva hired the following at Duke in a similar fashion to Orgeron...

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A search firm handed him Herman. He had 4 months to negotiate and Texas beat him in 10 min

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I understand all the anti-Alleva sentiment regarding his hiring prowess...or lack thereof. But a Tom Herman hire 2 years ago would have been a nightmare. Herman’s dream job was Texas. Whenever that job came open, he would have bolted leaving LSU in worst shape than we are now.

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thats ironic considering that LSU fans are obsessed with beating bama and Herman did it with tOSU's third string QB in 2014.

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Funny way to spell Zeke

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Would you rather spend 7.5 a year for Jimbo 
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Would you rather spend 5.4 a year on Orgeron and Einsminger

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Obviously I'd rather 7.5/year for Jimbo but that wasn't the deal that got him to College Station.

I'd slightly rather O and Ensminger at 5.4/year than 10 years with or without Jimbo for 75 mil.

The only issue with that trade off is the fact that those werent anywhere near the only two options.
With the Flecks, Kiffins even Arandas out there you shouldn't settle for a proven loser at a university like LSU. But apparently that's Alleva's M.O.
An "experiment" with an unknown commodity like Aranda at HC is a much better move (IMO) than hiring a proven loser for cheap. If recruiting/continuity was the big selling point - you're probably even better off with bringing Frank Wilson back for a shot.

I wasn't really aware of Alleva's history (minus the lacrosse debacle) at Duke. 13 wins in nine years? It's laughably tragic that he is still employed at this level. But no wonder he hired Orgeron. He was probably the only option with a record worse than his own.

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Lebowski

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Solo Cam

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to both of you, seriously. There is really nothing more to add here.

I'm curious to see what transpires in "The Swamp" this year. Downvote if you like, but when Herman said no I think they should have at least talked to Dan Mullen to see whether he had any interest. He did about as much as anyone has ever done in Starkville, and his offensive approach coupled with Aranda's defense might have been interesting to watch. I would never hope for an LSU loss, but if Mullen and the Gators should lay a beat-down on the Shrimp Boat Captain, perhaps it will be a final nail in Dukey Joe's coffin.

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UCLA and Nebraska best Florida for a coach

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Had Joe merely done his job Chip Kelly was available less than 2 months after he hired Ed.

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I'm so tired of the bitching about our coaches and AD. If you don't agree with it, stop going to the games and spending money. Otherwise, nothing will change. 

And that goes for politicians too. If you don't like the way things are, make your voice heard.

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So stop bitching because nothing will change but make your voice heard.

Ed O and Jimbo are mutually exclusive in this. I am not an ed orgeron supporter either. But Jimbo only won 6 games last year because a makeup game against a cream puff got put back on the schedule. I had no problem taking Jimbo, I had a huge problem with committing 10 years to a guy who just barely got bowl eligible last year at Florida St.

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Giving him the richest contract in college football history isn’t really what poaching a coach looks like.

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How else do you poach coaches?

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I'm sure he told LSU he was a changed man when he interviewed for the job.

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Not to derail the fantastic point of the thread, but this is a good jumping off point to another issue which drives me crazy. This notion of mere saying he's changed and having that matter.

Look...I really dislike the guy. I mean, a lot. I've disliked him from before his stint at ole Miss, and like nearly EVERY LSU fan at the time, laughed at those idiots for hiring him there. It was like we had sent them this big, stupid Cajun Trojan Horse to frick up their program. We universally saw what a terrible hire and coach he was then.

With that said...while I'd never like the guy I could have respected him as a head coach...had he bothered to earn that respect. After his interim gig at SC did not get him the head job, had he gone out and asked his agent to find him a small school where he could build or rebuild a program to actually prove to the college football world that Ole Miss had been a fluke and he was ready to run his own program again and was successful there...he'd have earned some respect. Had he parlayed THAT successful job into a mid-major and built that program into his own image and done well there, he could have PROVEN he was a changed coach. He'd have EARNED interest and interviews from Power 5 big time schools...

And had he done that, while I still would have disliked the man, I'd have had far less issue with Alleva tapping him to replace Miles, because he'd have a PROVEN track record of success AFTER running Ole Miss' program into the ditch.

But that's not what he did, is it? After being passed over by Pat Hayden at SC for the coaching job, he pouted publicly about it and then simply took his coach's whistle and went home. Literally. From there he began schmoozing local radio and TV personalities and making inroads with local high school coaches...still while not a coach anywhere, which in retrospect seems kind of odd, doesn't it? Unless there was a plan...

Then Miles hired him as the DL coach...and my a-hole clenched.

From there, it was a mid-season firing of the most successful coach in LSU's history and suddenly the guy who had not gotten a gig after his 6-2 interim run at SC and ZERO head coaching experience since then was interiming LSU. And even THEN it seemed unthinkable that he'd be given the reigns and most assumed he'd have to nearly run the table to even be considered. And then that didn't happen...and Alleva hired his arse anyway.

So...instead of ACTUALLY changing and proving he had become a better coach, all he had to do to get our Top 10 job was to "SAY" he had...and that seems to have been enough for both or idiot AD and a large portion of our fan base.