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A look back at Johnson’s teams fielding % and national rank for errors
Posted on 3/21/22 at 8:19 am
Posted on 3/21/22 at 8:19 am
Look, I still like Jay Johnson. I still believe he can do great things here. But that is 5 years worth of data below. These errors seem to be part of his teams. It isn’t something to dismiss
2017 Arizona: 156th (.968)
2017 LSU: 14th (.980)
2018 Arizona: 52nd (.975)
2018 LSU: 16th (.979)
2019 Arizona: 232nd (.962)
2019 LSU: 40th (.977)
2020 Arizona: 220th (.958)
2020 LSU: 31st (.979)
2021 Arizona: 159th (.967)
2021 LSU: 72nd (.973)
CPM avg rank 35th
JJ avg rank 164th
2017 Arizona: 156th (.968)
2017 LSU: 14th (.980)
2018 Arizona: 52nd (.975)
2018 LSU: 16th (.979)
2019 Arizona: 232nd (.962)
2019 LSU: 40th (.977)
2020 Arizona: 220th (.958)
2020 LSU: 31st (.979)
2021 Arizona: 159th (.967)
2021 LSU: 72nd (.973)
CPM avg rank 35th
JJ avg rank 164th
This post was edited on 3/21/22 at 8:22 am
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Posted on 3/21/22 at 8:21 am to lsupride87
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2021 LSU: 72nd (.973)
i realize not as bad as johnson's teams, but this seems telling as well though.
This post was edited on 3/21/22 at 8:23 am
Posted on 3/21/22 at 8:22 am to beauchristopher
quote:The same players are currently ranked 230th this year I believe
this seems telling as well though.
This post was edited on 3/21/22 at 8:22 am
Posted on 3/21/22 at 8:22 am to lsupride87
Soon we will have great fields, then everyone can go back to complaining about hitting.
Posted on 3/21/22 at 8:22 am to lsupride87
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It isn’t something to dismiss
This isn’t Arizona
He will have to make adjustments or he won’t have a job
Posted on 3/21/22 at 8:22 am to lsupride87
Who is dismissing it?
Posted on 3/21/22 at 8:23 am to josh336
quote:I see a ton of
Who is dismissing it?
“Ben said we take a ton of ground balls. A coach can’t control errors! It ain’t little league”
That’s dismissing it
Posted on 3/21/22 at 8:25 am to lsupride87
the thing is most of these players are the same as last year ...why have they gotten worse at fielding
Posted on 3/21/22 at 8:25 am to lsupride87
Yeah I don’t think anyone who actually pays attention to baseball is dismissing it
Posted on 3/21/22 at 8:26 am to lsupride87
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Ben said we take a ton of ground balls. A coach can’t control errors! It ain’t little league” That’s dismissing it
But Ben isn’t wrong. It’s a major issue. The question is how much can a coach actually change this issue.
Posted on 3/21/22 at 8:27 am to lsupride87
We are fielding .951 right now which is a good bit below any of those Arizona teams.
The bigger question mark I have is it's the same players from last year for the most part committing a lot more errors.
Ex. Thompson had 15 errors and fielded .938 all last year, he is fielding .839 with 9 errors already this year in the exact same position.
Then you got Doughty, who did move from 3B to 2B, which you should think would be a big help to him defensively. Last year he fielded .946 with 8 errors, this year .917 with 6 errors already.
Then you have guys like Merrifield who were defensive player of the year type in JUCO (at 2B) and he cant field from 3B to save his life but that's where we keep putting him?
Dont even get me started on Berry who simply shouldnt be in the field.
Some of these seem easily correctable by position changes. FWIW, I cant blame Johnson at all for Thompson's apparent falloff at SS, he's in the same position, and just making more mistakes is it.
The other things like watching berry make mistakes whether that be RF or 3B, Merrfield at 3B struggling while being defensive PoY in JUCO at 2B meanwhile Doughty struggles at 2B are the more easily questionable aspects.
The bigger question mark I have is it's the same players from last year for the most part committing a lot more errors.
Ex. Thompson had 15 errors and fielded .938 all last year, he is fielding .839 with 9 errors already this year in the exact same position.
Then you got Doughty, who did move from 3B to 2B, which you should think would be a big help to him defensively. Last year he fielded .946 with 8 errors, this year .917 with 6 errors already.
Then you have guys like Merrifield who were defensive player of the year type in JUCO (at 2B) and he cant field from 3B to save his life but that's where we keep putting him?
Dont even get me started on Berry who simply shouldnt be in the field.
Some of these seem easily correctable by position changes. FWIW, I cant blame Johnson at all for Thompson's apparent falloff at SS, he's in the same position, and just making more mistakes is it.
The other things like watching berry make mistakes whether that be RF or 3B, Merrfield at 3B struggling while being defensive PoY in JUCO at 2B meanwhile Doughty struggles at 2B are the more easily questionable aspects.
This post was edited on 3/21/22 at 8:40 am
Posted on 3/21/22 at 8:27 am to TigerStripes30
My guess is it’s nerves & in their heads
Johnson needs to do a better job of dealing with the mental aspect of the game
Johnson needs to do a better job of dealing with the mental aspect of the game
Posted on 3/21/22 at 8:29 am to lsupride87
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This post was edited on 6/4/22 at 6:23 am
Posted on 3/21/22 at 8:29 am to LSUJML
quote:Which is completely ironic because the rants biggest gripe with CPM (me included) was:
My guess is it’s nerves & in their heads
Johnson needs to do a better job of dealing with the mental aspect of the game
“He looks miserable and throws players under the bus. You can’t play baseball when your manager has you wound you like that”
Well, we actually played good defense with him
This post was edited on 3/21/22 at 8:30 am
Posted on 3/21/22 at 8:45 am to LSUJML
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My guess is it’s nerves & in their heads
This, if you look at Berry after he either commits an error or for example made that catch on the foul line yesterday and almost botched it, you can see him talking to himself with a nervous look on his face. I think this team will get better but i think all around right now the team has a mental thing going, they dont seem to have the juice they should have.. He needs to drill them this week on mental toughness..
I also hate the lack of effort they have even when making a play in the outfield they lob the ball half way to the infield and it bounces to whoever they are throwing it too.. I dont care whether you made the play or not throw the ball in with some initiative (For example the Gio throw to third yesterday, that dude should have been thrown out by a long shot, he even lost his footing half way to third and gio just slowly ran to the ball and lobbed it in)... Things like that can lead to complacency and when you actually need to make a strong throw in you are off...
This post was edited on 3/21/22 at 8:47 am
Posted on 3/21/22 at 8:46 am to lsupride87
Guess i havent seen those takes. Its a huge issue. Alot of it is personne related. But im also curious how much they work on the fundamentals and mental side of fielding
Its one thing to take 345 groundballs. Its another to focus on the very small details and mentally focus on the details
Its one thing to take 345 groundballs. Its another to focus on the very small details and mentally focus on the details
This post was edited on 3/21/22 at 8:47 am
Posted on 3/21/22 at 8:50 am to lsupride87
Better load up on Stud Arms and Dudes that will Slam 20 HR’s!
Posted on 3/21/22 at 8:56 am to LSUJML
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Yeah I don’t think anyone who actually pays attention to baseball is dismissing it
I don't think he means that people are dismissing the number of errors this team has committed. It's that people are dismissing the track record of Jay's teams' fielding percentages over the years. People are just acting like there is nothing he can do about it.
As far as that goes, I would say that while the coach is not directly responsible for the errors being committed, there is absolutely something he can do about it, and people greatly underestimate the value of a good instructor. I hear those comments on TV about LSU taking a bunch of ground balls, but is that all they are doing? Is someone getting these guys in the film room and showing them their poor footwork on bad throws? Are they specifically working on turning double plays? Or do they just hit balls around the infield, with no particular purpose for the fielders to work on their problems?
I don't know the answers to these questions, regarding Jay Johnson, as I don't sit in on practices. I'd be curious to know, however. Because when you look at the best programs, including LSU in years past, they are always very good, defensively. They don't have years where they suddenly drop into the 150's in fielding percentage. That is not by chance. And neither do I believe it is by chance that Jay's teams consistently struggle on defense. I get the strong impression that there isn't enough detail oriented work on fundamentals, and instead the focus is all about the philosophy of hitting. Well, if that is true, then hopefully this will serve notice to this staff that you can't win in this league with offense, alone.
This post was edited on 3/21/22 at 9:00 am
Posted on 3/21/22 at 8:58 am to thunderbird1100
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Then you have guys like Merrifield who were defensive player of the year type in JUCO (at 2B) and he cant field from 3B to save his life but that's where we keep putting him?
I have read just that in his bio, but didn’t Ben McDonald say in the broadcast yesterday that last year he moved to SS at LSUE?????
Was Ben wrong or did I hear wrong?
Btw, I have heard coaches say third is tougher to play than second. I disagree. Second base requires a better athlete and he has more things to do than the third baseman. JMHO
Posted on 3/21/22 at 9:00 am to lsupride87
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The same players are currently ranked 230th this year I believe
Same players in different spots.
It makes a difference.
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