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re: “3rd & (insert coach name)”quip
Posted on 11/6/26 at 11:26 am to dstone12
Posted on 11/6/26 at 11:26 am to dstone12
I used Team Rankings College FB Team Opponent Third Down Conversion Percentage to check on this earlier this year and just revised my numbers for so far this season. Team Rankings only uses data from games against othe FBS schools. Here is a crapton of data, make what you will of it. 
2003-Will Muschamp: ranked #3, Overall23.94%, Home 24.05%, Away 23.61%
2004-Will Muschamp: ranked #14, Overall32%, Home 29.89%, Away 36.84%
2005-Bo Pelini: ranked #3, Overall27.62%, Home 29.76%, Away 25.77%
2006-Bo Pelini: ranked #13, Overall31.87%, Home 25%, Away 42.86%
2007-Bo Pelini: ranked #18, Overall33.73%, Home 34.12%, Away 33.33%
2008-Doug Mallory/Bradley Dale Peveto: ranked #16, Overall32.54%, Home 36.45%, Away 25.81%
2009-John Chavis: ranked #43, Overall36%, Home 32.26%, Away 42.11%
2010-John Chavis: ranked #8, Overall33.33%, Home 34.52%, Away 32.99%
2011-John Chavis: ranked #27, Overall35.75%, Home 31.88%, Away 37.9%
2012-John Chavis: ranked #9, Overall31.55%, Home 28.13%, Away 36.11%
2013-John Chavis: ranked #62, Overall39.53%, Home 34.44%, Away 45.12%
2014-John Chavis: ranked #33, Overall37.16%, Home 31.31%, Away 44.05%
2015-Kevin Steele: ranked #27, Overall35.33%, Home 33.7%, Away 36.67%
2016-Dave Aranda : ranked #8, Overall31.4%, Home 31.52%, Away 35.33%
2017-Dave Aranda : ranked #43, Overall36.59%, Home 39.66%, Away 35.63%
2018-Dave Aranda : ranked #40, Overall36.87%, Home 37.08%, Away 36.67%
2019-Dave Aranda : ranked #5, Overall29.08%, Home 25.84%, Away 31.78%
2020-Bo Pelini: ranked #37, Overall37.3%, Home 42.55%, Away 34.18%
2021-Daronte Jones: ranked #88, Overall42.01%, Home 35.48%, Away 50%
2022-Matt House: ranked #76, Overall40%, Home 30.12%, Away 47.66%
2023-Matt House: ranked #120, Overall46.3%, Home 41.77%, Away 50.6%
2024-Blake Baker: ranked #75, Overall40.27%, Home 43.37%, Away 36.36%
2025-Blake Baker: ranked #39, Overall35.93%, Home 34.15%, Away 37.65%
2026-Blake Baker: ranked #22, Overall33.33%, Home 26.32%, Away 42.22%
2003-Will Muschamp: ranked #3, Overall23.94%, Home 24.05%, Away 23.61%
2004-Will Muschamp: ranked #14, Overall32%, Home 29.89%, Away 36.84%
2005-Bo Pelini: ranked #3, Overall27.62%, Home 29.76%, Away 25.77%
2006-Bo Pelini: ranked #13, Overall31.87%, Home 25%, Away 42.86%
2007-Bo Pelini: ranked #18, Overall33.73%, Home 34.12%, Away 33.33%
2008-Doug Mallory/Bradley Dale Peveto: ranked #16, Overall32.54%, Home 36.45%, Away 25.81%
2009-John Chavis: ranked #43, Overall36%, Home 32.26%, Away 42.11%
2010-John Chavis: ranked #8, Overall33.33%, Home 34.52%, Away 32.99%
2011-John Chavis: ranked #27, Overall35.75%, Home 31.88%, Away 37.9%
2012-John Chavis: ranked #9, Overall31.55%, Home 28.13%, Away 36.11%
2013-John Chavis: ranked #62, Overall39.53%, Home 34.44%, Away 45.12%
2014-John Chavis: ranked #33, Overall37.16%, Home 31.31%, Away 44.05%
2015-Kevin Steele: ranked #27, Overall35.33%, Home 33.7%, Away 36.67%
2016-Dave Aranda : ranked #8, Overall31.4%, Home 31.52%, Away 35.33%
2017-Dave Aranda : ranked #43, Overall36.59%, Home 39.66%, Away 35.63%
2018-Dave Aranda : ranked #40, Overall36.87%, Home 37.08%, Away 36.67%
2019-Dave Aranda : ranked #5, Overall29.08%, Home 25.84%, Away 31.78%
2020-Bo Pelini: ranked #37, Overall37.3%, Home 42.55%, Away 34.18%
2021-Daronte Jones: ranked #88, Overall42.01%, Home 35.48%, Away 50%
2022-Matt House: ranked #76, Overall40%, Home 30.12%, Away 47.66%
2023-Matt House: ranked #120, Overall46.3%, Home 41.77%, Away 50.6%
2024-Blake Baker: ranked #75, Overall40.27%, Home 43.37%, Away 36.36%
2025-Blake Baker: ranked #39, Overall35.93%, Home 34.15%, Away 37.65%
2026-Blake Baker: ranked #22, Overall33.33%, Home 26.32%, Away 42.22%
Posted on 11/6/26 at 11:30 am to dstone12
quote:Rant group think repeated by small brains to show their self-perceived ball knowledge.
So is it safe to say that “every” coach is guilty of this at LSU?
Posted on 11/6/26 at 11:51 am to mdomingue
2003 remains the greatest defense in LSU history
Posted on 11/6/26 at 11:59 am to NussBusDriver
What I never understood about Chavis is how he fell so far after arguably being one of the best DCs in the entire country in the mid to late 90’s.
That 1998 Tennessee defense was amazing.
That 1998 Tennessee defense was amazing.
Posted on 11/6/26 at 12:02 pm to NussBusDriver
quote:
Chavis 3rd down defense rate
2009- 63%
2010-67%
2011- 68%
2012-68%
2013-67%
2014-67%
So Chavis was really good on 3rd down his entire time here.
I would be curious to know his 3rd and long rate, because that's what I remember being frustrating. It wasn't that we were giving up tons of third downs; it's that we were giving up 3rd downs that we shouldn't be giving up.
Posted on 11/6/26 at 12:04 pm to dstone12
The fact of the matter is that Chavis was an outstanding defensive coordinator while here..
Posted on 11/6/26 at 12:05 pm to Joshjrn
It really is simple with Chavis. Go to 2012. Watch the Alabama game. Look at Chest tat's stats throwing for every drive before the last one. Watch how the defense played on every drive except the last one. The last drive we did something completely different and soft when the game situation didn't even warrant it and let that dude double his completions for the game. That's why he wears it. It isn't his overall body of work. Without that game no one would mention it.
This post was edited on 11/6/26 at 12:08 pm
Posted on 11/6/26 at 12:10 pm to Madking
quote:
2003 remains the greatest defense in LSU history
And Muschamp is still a good DC.
Posted on 11/6/26 at 12:12 pm to dstone12
3rd and Chavis followed him from Tennessee. The UT fans warned about it after we poached him.
I'm not saying it was or wasn't true, but I'd be more interested in 3rd down rate in the 4th quarter or when the game was on the line.
67% rate tells me nothing. That includes all cupcakes, all blowouts, everything.
I'm not saying it was or wasn't true, but I'd be more interested in 3rd down rate in the 4th quarter or when the game was on the line.
67% rate tells me nothing. That includes all cupcakes, all blowouts, everything.
Posted on 11/6/26 at 12:34 pm to dstone12
It was Chavis that this term referred to so often. Just to have. 3rd and 16 and give up 17 yds. 3rd and 12 and give up 15. Seems it happened so much more with Chavis. 
Posted on 11/6/26 at 12:38 pm to atxfan
quote:
I’m 100% confident that there were people complaining throughout that whole season.
I mean the Ole Miss and Bama games speaks for themselves. If we didn't have the best offense in history, both of those games were very loseable
Posted on 11/6/26 at 12:51 pm to therick711
quote:
The last drive we did something completely different and soft when the game situation didn't even warrant it and let that dude double his completions for the game.
Not sure I would call a corner blitz soft? He was extremely aggressive that drive and Saban made him pay with a 23 yard screen pass into the blitzing side.
Also McCarron completed 4 passes out of his 14 completions that drive? Certainly not doubling his total. Now it was the drive with the highest number of completions, but McCarron had multiple drives with 3 completions, so it wasn’t much higher, and it was the only drive where the run wasn’t a factor due to the time, so you would expect more completions. Funny how people miss remember things and make them up in their head.
Posted on 11/6/26 at 12:53 pm to dstone12
quote:Of all these, I was most confident in Aranda in big moments. Glad he's back!
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