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247: Updated bowl projections as we enter the summer

Posted on 5/24/21 at 10:10 am
Posted by Captain Crown
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Posted on 5/24/21 at 10:10 am
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 5/24/21 at 10:12 am to
I'm surprised anyone is picking us to do that well. I'll take it though and fwiw, I agree with that projection.
Posted by ehidal1
Chief Boot Knocka
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Posted on 5/24/21 at 10:12 am to
We comin
Posted by thunderbird1100
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Posted on 5/24/21 at 10:13 am to
OSU
Bama
Clemson
OU

playoff

Posted by YeauxTigers
Sugar Land, TX
Member since Dec 2007
954 posts
Posted on 5/24/21 at 10:16 am to
After last year, a New Year's bowl would be nice. But I am one of those fans with seemingly unrealistic expectations and just think we should always want to be at least in the running for the 4 team playoff. Also, it would be fun to go someplace other than Atlanta.
Posted by YeauxTigers
Sugar Land, TX
Member since Dec 2007
954 posts
Posted on 5/24/21 at 10:18 am to
Agreed, that group of teams every year makes college football less interesting. Let's shake it up again!
Posted by rpg37
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Posted on 5/24/21 at 10:21 am to
Who is that mascot next to Notre Dame?
Posted by Parade Grounds
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Posted on 5/24/21 at 10:22 am to
Is that coastal Carolina?
Posted by MOT
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Posted on 5/24/21 at 10:23 am to
Yes
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
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Posted on 5/24/21 at 10:23 am to
That would be a great season…use it as a spring board for a playoff run in 2022
Posted by Alt26
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Posted on 5/24/21 at 10:33 am to
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I'm surprised anyone is picking us to do that well. I'll take it though and fwiw, I agree with that projection


While never 100% accurate, two of the best indicators of success over (at least) the last 20 years or so has been (1) returning production and (2) Four year recruiting rankings.

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The Returning Talent Index
Bill Connelly, the college football stats guru for nerds like you and me (and former FO writer), has relied for a couple of years on his returning production statistic. Bill uses a weighted average of the returning stats, not players, from year to year as an indicator of who might be more successful in the upcoming season. I'm going to tweak and build on the idea of returning production, focusing on talent instead of stats and exploiting new data from the college football transfer portal.

The Returning Talent Index is simple: the index is your team's talent composite weighted by returning production, plus net transfer ratings, plus incoming recruiting ratings, normalized to a mean of 0 and a standard deviation of 1. A returning talent index of 1.5 means your team improved by 1.5 standard deviations relative to average, and a returning talent index of -0.25 means your team got worse by a quarter of a standard deviation relative to average.

I begin by looking at the "raw" data based on the entire Power 5, and then will add in conference adjustment ratings to get a final score for each team, identifying who got the biggest bump from transfers along the way. At the end, I'll highlight the Group of 5 teams to identify who might make a playoff push, or at least a New Year's Six run. I use the team composite rating from 247 Sports, which aggregates the recruiting stars and ratings currently on a team's roster, as well as recruiting data on incoming freshmen and the transfer portal, all readily available on the 247 websites. Returning production is calculated from play-by-play data from the NCAA's website.

LINK




Guess who is #1 in the Returning Talent Index?

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LSU, Oregon, and Miami are officially the teams to watch this fall.


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Since 1996, every team that has won an undisputed national title except for Oklahoma in 2000 has had at least two top ten national recruiting classes in the four years before a title. So while signing a top ten recruiting class doesn’t guarantee that you’re going to win a national title — indeed, there are plenty of teams that don’t — for 24 of the past 25 years, you can’t win a title without at least two top ten recruiting classes.


Only 13 teams fit this category this season. One of whom is LSU (3 straight top 5 classes)

There was reason to be bullish on LSU entering 2019. They were returning a ton of production and the (odd year) schedule was favorable outside of a trip to Texas and Alabama. Well, the same factors are in play this season. No, there likely isn't a "Burrow" at QB. And the DC is unproven as opposed to Aranda entering 2019. But there a LOT of reason to like LSU this season.

Blind optimism made people believe LSU would be great last season even though the statistical data going into the season suggested otherwise (though no one thought they would be THAT bad). But if the data was mostly right in predicting last season, perhaps the same is true for this season.

Posted by Train is comin
Deer Park
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Posted on 5/24/21 at 10:41 am to
2022 is going to be another drop off year going by the roster..
Posted by bayou85
Concordia
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Posted on 5/24/21 at 11:00 am to
Clemson blowing OU out will be the first time the playoffs that a team has been beaten by a team thats already kicked their arse in the playoffs.

O(verated)U is setting records.
Posted by tigerfan84
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Posted on 5/24/21 at 11:02 am to
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
36017 posts
Posted on 5/24/21 at 11:03 am to
Have the 2022 bowl projections come out yet?
I might be going to the Music City.
This post was edited on 5/24/21 at 11:03 am
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 5/24/21 at 11:03 am to
At some point OU will stop getting the benefit of the doubt, right?
Posted by The Hurricane
Gulf of Mexico
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Posted on 5/24/21 at 11:11 am to
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At some point OU will stop getting the benefit of the doubt, right?


And Notre Dame
Posted by Bomont
Member since May 2021
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Posted on 5/24/21 at 4:01 pm to
Mais das the mighty Chanticleers
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
98947 posts
Posted on 5/24/21 at 6:17 pm to
I want LSU in the Playoffs. I get $3,600 if we win it all

Posted by cheeser
downtown Fishville
Member since Feb 2007
2500 posts
Posted on 5/24/21 at 7:10 pm to
i have the same bet .
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