re: Signing Limit Waiver Details & Projected Attrition

I didn't scroll much, but... If an incoming athlete gets a large enough NIL, does he have the option of NOT being counted in the 25-32 limit IF he pays his own way?

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It did come up in the thread. As far as I know, technically yes - a school can theoretically skirt signing/scholarship limits if a talented player is willing to pay their own way. NIL is not considered financial aid since it doesn’t come from the university.

Practically speaking, I don’t think it’s very likely for several reasons I pointed out earlier in the thread.

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Then you can bet yer arse that 8T4 prolly hasn't used scholly #1 yet. If they are administering the amount of coin suggested everywhere, NONE of those dudes need a scholly.

And edit: Thanks for providing a thread with actual info. Appreciate the work that went into it.

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Didn't Andre Anthony already pen a thankyou/farewell letter to the fans after he got hurt?

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It was definitely a thank you letter. Wasn’t really clear whether it was a true “farewell.”

Realistically he’s probably done. I’m just holding out hope.

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So, it does not appear that a player who is paid with NIL money but who does not receive a scholarship counts against the numbers.

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I don’t know that the question is necessarily related to the signing limit waiver itself, but sure - theoretically that’s possible. I’m not convinced that’s what lies ahead, though.

Consider that a rash of 4* players with scholarship offers from other schools going to a powerhouse program without any financial aid is likely to raise a TON of scrutiny from the NCAA. Also consider that these NIL deals have to be reported, so there’s a paper trail of who received money and how much.

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With a rumored 1000 players in the portal, we should be able to offer some of them to walk on (with some NIL money). Without this tactic, we are going to be severely short of players next season. I think it’s easier to get a transferred player on the team to walk on and take NIL money than a kid coming out of high school. We just need bodies next year, then when the NCAA reels this shite in we can return to a more normal strategy.

Ricks isn’t going to be a grade problem. He made it through three years of Mater Dei. That’s a tough academic high school.

This is spot-on as any player could be legally classified as a "walk-on". BYU boosters paid all walk-ons tuition.

Serious question: why doesn’t lsu administration just come out and answer ALL OF THESE QUESTIONS for the fans, as long as it doesn’t violate privacy laws? I don’t see the downside.

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Regardless, a player who quits going to class and transfers is going to be in an academic hole from day 1 at their new school. Maybe they can regain eligibility by taking summer/intercession classes, but I don’t know why they would do that to themselves just to keep their previous school from adding another player.

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A player transferring that is not academically eligible would not get to utilize the no sit out rule; being academically eligible is one of the conditions for immediate eligibility at the new school.

the entirety of the NCAA By-Law for the waiver of the residency requirement (ie: one time transfer with immediate eligibility), please note the passage in bold:

14.5.5.2.10 One-Time Transfer Exception. The student transfers to the certifying institution from another four-year collegiate institution, and all of the following conditions are met (for postgraduate students, see Bylaw 14.6.1):
(Revised: 1/16/93 effective 8/1/93, 1/11/94, 1/10/95, 1/9/96, 1/11/97, 11/1/00 effective 8/1/01, 4/26/01, 4/28/05 effective
8/1/05, 4/27/06 effective 10/15/06, 12/15/06, 4/27/07 effective 8/1/08, 4/29/10 effective 8/1/10, 4/22/11, 4/28/21
applicable to transfer student-athletes seeking eligibility during the 2021-22 academic year. Mandatory education related to transferring will be applicable upon its availability)
(a) The student has not transferred previously from one four-year institution unless, in the previous transfer, the
student-athlete received an exception per Bylaw 14.5.5.2.6 (discontinued/nonsponsored sport exception);
(b) At the time of transfer to the certifying institution (see Bylaw 14.5.2), the student would have been academically
eligible had the student remained at the institution from which the student transferred, except that the student is
not required to have fulfilled the necessary percentage-of-degree requirements at the previous institution; and
(c) The head coach of the certifying institution and the student shall certify that no athletics staff member or other
representative of the institution’s athletics interest communicated or made contact with the student-athlete, or any
individual associated with the student (e.g., family member, scholastic or nonscholastic coach, advisor), directly or
indirectly, without first obtaining authorization through the notification of transfer process (see Bylaw 13.1.1.3).
(d) The student must provide written notification of transfer to the institution by the following dates:
(1) Fall and winter sports: May 1.
(2) Spring sports: July 1.

ETA: So, no the academically ineligible transfer would not be able to make academic progress using summer school or intersessions, they would not qualify for the waiver of residency rules and would have to sit out for a year and regain academic eligibility for the next season.

Total Replacement
• Landon Jackson
• Eli Ricks
• Max Johnson
• Deion Smith
• Koy Moore
• Navonteque Strong
• Trey Palmer
• Damone Clark (draft)
• Derek Stingley, Jr. (draft)
• Ed Ingram (draft)
• Tyrion Davis-Price (draft)
• Cordale Flott (draft)
• Avery Atkins (draft)
• Cade York (draft)
• Austin Deculus (OL)
• Cameron Lewis (S)
• Darren Evans (CB)
• Glen Logan (DL)
• Jontre Kirklin (WR/QB/DB)
• Liam Shanahan (OL)
• Neil Farrell, Jr. (DL)
Chasen Hines (Draft)
• Quentin Skinner (LS)

Looks like we are replacing 23 players right now…