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re: Perpetual free agency

Posted on 1/4/24 at 1:38 pm to
Posted by LSUStar
Medellin
Member since Sep 2009
10445 posts
Posted on 1/4/24 at 1:38 pm to
Capitalism? LOL. Can an authentic economy be founded on a fake currency?
Posted by J2thaROC
Member since May 2018
13035 posts
Posted on 1/4/24 at 1:40 pm to
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Can an authentic economy be founded on a fake currency?



Ask America.

Anything can be currency as long as it’s desired
This post was edited on 1/4/24 at 1:42 pm
Posted by Jizzy08
Member since Aug 2008
11231 posts
Posted on 1/4/24 at 1:48 pm to
Put an end to the portal and make them sit a year and you fix a lot of this.
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
28384 posts
Posted on 1/4/24 at 2:07 pm to
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There are ways around that. Word it as “you must make X amount of playing visits on (specific football field) wearing (specific colors). You never actually mention the school itself as playing specifically for them just happens to be on their field wearing their colors. Legal issues constantly come down to “technicalities”.

You can’t word it about where a player has to play, but you can word it saying “you will NOT be paid IF you play for
(Input any all schools you want here)”


Hey, sounds creative....it would almost assuredly be found to be a pay-for-play contact. The people paying these NIL deals are often sophisticated businessmen. I promise you, if they could draft a contract that locks in a kid to a certain school they would had done so already. The reality is they can't under the current landscape. That's why you haven't seen it.
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
28384 posts
Posted on 1/4/24 at 2:13 pm to
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Put an end to the portal and make them sit a year and you fix a lot of this.


The "portal" itself is literally just a database. So "ending" that does nothing. I agree the sit-a-year rule would curtail some of the rampant transferring and free-agency. But that train has likely left the station. Hell, the NCAA tried to at least maintain some sort of control by enforcing the rule that 2x transfers were no immediately eligible following their second transfer. Of course, boosters, fans, coaches couldn't see the forest for the trees and fought to eliminate that prohibition. Their efforts (at least for now) were successful. So now a player can transfer any time, any number of times, without penalty.
Posted by Salviati
Member since Apr 2006
5541 posts
Posted on 1/4/24 at 2:25 pm to
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Gone are the days of waiting your turn and developing your skills.
I don't like unlimited transfers. But times have changed.

Gone are the days of teams re-using uniforms.

Gone are the days of head coaches making the same salary as a plumber.

Gone are the days of P5 head coaches making less than your doctor.

Gone are the days of college football generating less than a billion dollars.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81658 posts
Posted on 1/4/24 at 2:44 pm to
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You can’t come up with any logical reason to not allow it other than for selfish reasons which are not logical or legitimate.
Tampering is but only one, and a big one. Protecting the kids from rash decisions is another. No student was ever denied a transfer. It just used to come with conditions.

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People are willing to pay them to attend those schools because of the return they get.
That was never what NIL was about, and should not be now.
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You think you should be telling people how much they can or can’t make or telling people how and where to spend their money? How communist is of you.
Not all ways of making money are equal nor are all legal.
Posted by LSUtiger89
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2007
3642 posts
Posted on 1/4/24 at 2:57 pm to
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The boosters/collectives would be CRAZY for agreeing to long term commitments. The reason is because the NIL contract cannot be tied to the the player playing for a specific school. That would make it a direct pay-for-play contract.


There’s ways around that honestly. You can put in requirements for living in a certain area that is needed close to the business because of the targeted market and needed for promotional, etc.
Posted by Dizz
Member since May 2008
14735 posts
Posted on 1/4/24 at 3:18 pm to
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Protecting the kids from rash decisions is another.


Oh so this is about protecting the "kids" who are adults.

I love how every kid who transfers is "making a terrible decision", "listening to the wrong people", "doesn't want to compete" or "is mentally weak". Funny how these things only get said about guys who played or have high projections. A third string guy hits the portal and everyone says "good luck he wasn't going to play". Then a guy who stays "is mentally strong", "a competitor" and " cares about his team". Fans have zero idea of why a guy may actually be transferring.
Posted by da prophet
hammond, la
Member since Sep 2013
2298 posts
Posted on 1/4/24 at 3:47 pm to
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A portion of the rant thinks it's all good for college football. Player empowerment, no rules, no regulations, wild west.

This not good for college football. You need some sort of contractual relationship. The NFL has issues but as of now it’s a lot better than college football. If star players are under contract at least the team has some stability. They know when the contracts up and they have a chance of losing a player. This is pure madness. No commitment on the players part. It was one thing when players were receiving no significant compensation, but this is basically becoming another NFL with no contracts.
Posted by PUB
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2017
18258 posts
Posted on 1/4/24 at 6:25 pm to
Nothing short of professional athletes that belong in a MLB/G League development league. Time to shut down the Big 3 sports in college and let them take the dose of the real world.
This crap has nothing to do with getting a college education right now as an amateur.
It is a paid professional system.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260881 posts
Posted on 1/4/24 at 6:52 pm to
Makes you appreciate the ones who stay and pay their dues.
Posted by grizzlylongcut
Member since Sep 2021
9485 posts
Posted on 1/4/24 at 6:55 pm to
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I heard about one guy agreeing to a contract extension and then going to Notre Dame like a week later... Oh wait that was Mike Denbrock. REGULATE THESE COACHES! He also sat out of the bowl game. Selfish.


The coaches are regulated, dumbass.
Posted by Captain Crown
Member since Jun 2011
50815 posts
Posted on 1/4/24 at 6:58 pm to
It’s the NFL but with in season tampering
Posted by catfish 62
Atlanta
Member since Mar 2010
4913 posts
Posted on 1/4/24 at 7:01 pm to
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J2thaROC


Have a melt my brotha
Posted by Geauxldilocks
Member since Aug 2018
2444 posts
Posted on 1/4/24 at 7:24 pm to
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been saying that for sometime. The new age of college football is upon us. Can’t be sustainable though. Can it?


The semifinal games were great and I’m sure near record ratings. In the thinks that matter, ratings and $ the game appears very sustainable. Rapidly rising coaching salaries and readily available NIL funds indicate the game is fine.

Most of us hate the changes in the game, but until CFB shows signs of going the way of boxing or NASCAR there is nothing that indicates the game is at risk.
This post was edited on 1/4/24 at 7:27 pm
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81658 posts
Posted on 1/4/24 at 7:48 pm to
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I love how every kid who transfers is "making a terrible decision", "listening to the wrong people", "doesn't want to compete" or "is mentally weak"
I don't know anyone who thinks this way.
Posted by Suntiger
BR or somewhere else
Member since Feb 2007
32969 posts
Posted on 1/4/24 at 8:10 pm to
Posted by Dizz
Member since May 2008
14735 posts
Posted on 1/4/24 at 9:24 pm to
Huh? Go look at any of the transfer portal threads.
Posted by BayouBengal99
Crowley
Member since Oct 2007
9124 posts
Posted on 1/4/24 at 9:28 pm to
Dude you have no clue what you’re talking about. This isn’t close to capitalism and even capitalism has a boss, it’s called the consumer, which we fans happen to be.

You keep this up and your money tree will eventually be a bunch of bare branches. It takes an adult to run a capitalist business with sustainable success. Would you allow an 18 year old to run your business into the ground? There has to be boundaries are it will dramatically fail with time. Is that good for the kids?

There needs to be some sustainability, even capitalism has ground rules, regulations and standards. You take away the signing bonuses or if allowed, you cap that. What you can’t cap is what they do with that money and how they capitalize on their career. That’s capitalism moron.

You know, making plays on the field in front of a national audience and generating a national fanbase for yourself. Then capitalizing on that following. Not a bunch of desperate millionaire/ billionaire alumn throwing money at kids for a year then next season they switch jerseys for another desperate alumn. That is NOT capitalism, that’s not sustainable, that’s exactly how you create a broken system. Some of you people have no brains and can’t see very far.
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