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Posted on 1/5/24 at 10:11 am to mudcat tiger
Just allow 1 transfer, no questions asked. After that, transfers should be only if the losing team consents.
Transfer and play immediately. 5 to play 4, period. Unless you graduate, then you can apply for a 5th year on the field.
NIL should remain just another factor.
Transfer and play immediately. 5 to play 4, period. Unless you graduate, then you can apply for a 5th year on the field.
NIL should remain just another factor.
Posted on 1/5/24 at 10:51 am to Ace Midnight
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Just allow 1 transfer, no questions asked. After that, transfers should be only if the losing team consents.
The NCAA tried to enforce their rule that a player couldn't be immediately eligible after a second transfer (assuming he wasn't a grad student). The schools, players, and booster didn't want that. So several state AGs sued the NCAA seeking to prohibit that rule from being enforced...and they (temporarily) won. And it's very likely that rule won't be enforced again going forward.
Of course, many coaches, fans, boosters, in those same states will bitch about "college free agency" when one of their star players bails on them. It was a complete can't see the forest for the trees moment. NIL alone is not the sole problem. It's that combined with the freedom of transfer rules that create "free agency". In pro sports you have contracts. You can't have that in college. But the rules on transferring created a somewhat de facto contract because there was a disincentive to transfer. The NCAA tried to hang on to some degree of that with the 2x transfer rule. But people didn't want that. So in this instance don't blame the NCAA
Posted on 1/5/24 at 10:51 am to J2thaROC
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They said eventually the collectives will be unwilling to continue to pay coaches this amount and not getting results. Just ask Jimbo Fisher if that was true or not. The salaries for coaches keep going up and up and the results stay the same for almost every team involved. All contracts for NIL will do is cause other colleges NIL collectives to “buy out” the contracts for players they want like they currently do coaches.
Maybe, but there are only 65 power 5 head coaches compared to nearly 6000 power 5 scholarship football players. When including the other major sports, one would think it will become unsustainable.
Surely the market will adjust.
Posted on 1/5/24 at 10:58 am to GeauxLSU4
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… no rules, no regulations, wild west.
We been steadily been moving this direction with banks and the rest of the economy for 50 years — why not college football right?
This post was edited on 1/5/24 at 11:20 am
Posted on 1/5/24 at 11:16 am to Alt26
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o several state AGs sued the NCAA seeking to prohibit that rule from being enforced...and they (temporarily) won.
Not really, the judge entered a preliminary injunction/TRO for fourteen days at which time, Dec 27, a hearing on the order would be held. With only four days remaining in the year, the NCAA decided to allow 2023/24 academic year scholarship athletes to transfer.
I’m not sure if this is indicative of the NCAA caving or that the plaintiffs’ antitrust case will prevail. Seems like if the NCAA was going to allow this going forward, the case would no longer be pending.
Posted on 1/5/24 at 3:22 pm to J2thaROC
What an uninformed answer.
Posted on 1/5/24 at 3:26 pm to GeauxLSU4
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A portion of the rant thinks it's all good for college football.
I don’t know about that. There are those among us who believe it is the fair thing to do, though. For decades kids have been sacrificing their time and health so that fat slob fans can enjoy themselves and fat cat coaches, universities and media can make money. That isn’t right.
At the same time we realize that, for all of the aforementioned fatties, the good old days are gone.
Posted on 1/5/24 at 3:30 pm to J2thaROC
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Why do you hate capitalism? Are you a communist?
It’s not up to any school or you to decide for someone else how or where they “develop their skills”. You telling me you wouldn’t take a far better paying job just because your current job of “training you”? If you say you wouldn’t think about taking the better paying job you are a damn liar.
Then just call this NIL/Transfer Portal/Shitshow what it is; NFL Development League and not College Football anymore.
Posted on 1/5/24 at 3:36 pm to mudcat tiger
It somewhat did until the "sit out a year" provision on the second transfer was eliminated.
Posted on 1/5/24 at 3:39 pm to J2thaROC
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You can’t come up with any logical reason to not allow it other than for selfish reasons which are not logical or legitimate.
Why then are professional athletes not free agents every year if that pure free market capitalism were the best model? They have to develop a system that creates continuity for the good of the sport, which in turn is in the best interest of the players.
Posted on 1/5/24 at 5:10 pm to mudcat tiger
NIL and the portal aren’t broken. What is broken is the fact that there is no longer a penalty for transferring. You used to either burn a redshirt or lose a year of eligibility if you transferred as an undergraduate player.
Return to the old transfer rules and everything would fix itself. You could even give a free transfer without losing eligibility, but force the athlete to sit a year. Like they would a redshirt year.
Return to the old transfer rules and everything would fix itself. You could even give a free transfer without losing eligibility, but force the athlete to sit a year. Like they would a redshirt year.
Posted on 1/5/24 at 6:02 pm to J2thaROC
J2: this is not a job, this is supposed to be student athletes!
Posted on 1/5/24 at 7:05 pm to GeauxLSU4
Professional sports has no place in college.
Send them all to farm leagues
Send them all to farm leagues
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