re: On3: Going rate for OT/DL

I'm torn because it's funny that Saban was handing out money well before the NIL error helping him and now he can't control recruiting anymore.

Do I want to see others take recruits away from him? Yes. But, do I want regulations? Absolutely. It just feels like regulations will bring the market back down but somehow put him in position to get back to where he was.

They’ve ruined college football. It will eventually implode.

I don’t believe any NIL numbers. They’re all bullshite

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No one in here would complain if employers got into a bidding war over your employment. No one complains when a bidding war ensues when they put their house on the market. We don't have the government regulating coaches salaries arguing that there needs to be a cap because the poor schools can't stop the rich schools from hiring their successful coaches. But by all means let's regulate the players earnings because we can't have the laborers making what they're worth

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There is a salary cap for almost every professional sports league though, and for good reason. The argument isn’t about players not being able to make what they’re worth, it’s about the bigger “franchises” in the game being able to pay so much that it ruins the small market franchises’ ability to stay in business and keep talent, in turn ruining the sport and putting everyone out of business.

The issue is way too complicated to compare to employers bidding on employment. I can’t decide to open up a major university and field my own football team tomorrow, this isn’t a “free market” thing. The only way professional, paid sports leagues work is with a salary cap, period.

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No one in here would complain if employers got into a bidding war over your employment. No one complains when a bidding war ensues when they put their house on the market. We don't have the government regulating coaches salaries arguing that there needs to be a cap because the poor schools can't stop the rich schools from hiring their successful coaches. But by all means let's regulate the players earnings because we can't have the laborers making what they're worth. The players are adults by law. They should be able to make whatever someone is willing to pay them for their service/skill. Since when has that been a bad thing?

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Spare us with the workers of the world unite bit. This isn’t that. Pay for play is still illegal, but that isn’t being enforced, nor is there any way to effectively do it. Combined with the portal, it’s turned the sport into a total shite show.

One of two things need to happen. One would be to make the NIL system what it was designed to be- a way for players to be paid for their ability to build their own brand using the brand of the school they choose. Strictly enforce this, and it can work.

Second, and much more painful, would be to go all the way and abandon NIL as the primary means of paying players. The P5 in football would have to leave the NCAA and Title IX’s bullshite behind and make the players employees with full pay and benefits.

The later is likely where we are heading and it’s unfortunate. This will basically kill the G5, or relegate them to FCS level and it will take away a lot of what was good about the rest of big-time college football. It will be professional football played on par with spring leagues and nowhere remotely close to the NFL.

Bryce getting the 7.6 billion canes NIL package

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Those Numbers are coming directly from staffs involved in the negotiations.

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Lol. Ok.

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Why has it turned CFB into a shite show? Seems like CFB is now free market capitalism. Guys are getting paid what someone thinks they are worth. It's competition. Isn't that what we want? Can't afford to compete? Oh well. That's life. I want to live in the nicest gated community, drive the nicest vehicles, and go on vacations all the time. Guess what? I can't afford to live like that. Maybe the government should pass some regulation so I can better compete with wealthy people. Should I ask the government to level the playing field?

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You have no idea what you are talking about. No one here is saying players shouldn’t be compensated. But the only thing the Supreme Court ruling forbade was pay for play, but that’s about 99% of what is happening now. There is no direct relationship between the two parties where money is concerned and there are no contracts. This is not the same as me working for my employer under a contract and being compensated directly by my employer for my work.

Right now, all you have is a court ruling that basically did nothing to set up a framework for NIL and different laws in every state. You can keep babbling about capitalism, but ALL US markets are restricted by laws and regulations and there are laws that govern both employers and employees. The world of NIL should be no different than any other area of federally regulated Interstate commerce.

But that brings us back to the real problem- there is no employee-employer relationship when it comes to NIL. The player and the school have a scholarship agreement, but it has nothing to do with this money. If NIL was really going to be about sponsorship agreements and player branding, then there wouldn’t be a problem. Pro athletes have all kinds of sponsorships and ad deals. But would you for one second suggest that pro athletes be paid their full salaries not by their teams, but through intermediaries and separate from their contract with the team? What kind of sense does that make? That is exactly what is happening in college football today.

I am not personally in favor of destroying the model of college football, but we would have the system you seem to believe exists in your fantasy world if we make the players employees of football programs run independently of the NCAA and the universities. That is a legitimate, legal, regulated employer-employee relationship where players will be compensated directly based on a CONTRACT. I hate what it may do to the sport, but at least this would be a legitimate system to manage pay for play.

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It's time to get some regulation on NIL.

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They need to make Freshman ineligible for NIL. Only players that have actually PLAYED at least 1 season of CFB can sign NIL deals.

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They’ve ruined college football. It will eventually implode.

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Yet you’re still here posting and watching the games.