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re: MBB Offseason '26 Transfer Portal / HS Tracker
Posted on 8/25/26 at 9:14 pm to moldy_tiger
Posted on 8/25/26 at 9:14 pm to moldy_tiger
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I remember them coming out with something during the portal time period with something about “earnings can’t exceed expenses” but I think everyone kinda blew it off
Yes, they did. I made a rather detailed post earlier in this thread on the new "actual and necessary expenses" and the uncertainty around it. I think I might have been called "retarded" for bringing it up.
Posted on 8/25/26 at 9:16 pm to Pnels08
This is gonna be an easy case for LSU lawyers we should be fine. I’m sure UK is gonna be going to court too especially since they got MM.
Posted on 8/25/26 at 9:18 pm to rds dc
Yep, you’ve been all over this
Posted on 8/25/26 at 9:29 pm to rds dc
Can't we just go the injunction route for the euro guys if the NCAA doesn't seem the eligible?
Then the SEC would have to come up with something for Euro pros?
Then the SEC would have to come up with something for Euro pros?
Posted on 8/26/26 at 6:29 am to Pnels08
That’s likely where this is headed
Posted on 8/26/26 at 7:54 am to Pnels08
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Then the SEC would have to come up with something for Euro pros?
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SEC schools cannot roster any athlete who has declared for the NFL, NBA, or WNBA draft without properly withdrawing.
Santos - entered the '23 draft and went undrafted
Dessert - entered the '25 NBA draft and went undrafted.
Niang - entered the '25 NBA draft and was selected 58th.
It appears that all 3 fall under the current rule, since there is no carve-out for international players.
Posted on 8/26/26 at 8:16 am to rds dc
Good info
I guess the only point to be made would be how could they have withdrawn appropriately if there was nothing to withdrawn too. But nonetheless I'm sure it will get litigated to hell.
I guess the only point to be made would be how could they have withdrawn appropriately if there was nothing to withdrawn too. But nonetheless I'm sure it will get litigated to hell.
Posted on 8/26/26 at 8:26 am to rds dc
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SEC schools cannot roster any athlete who has declared for the NFL, NBA, or WNBA draft without properly withdrawing.
But it is totally fine to declare and actually get drafted by MLB? Why the distinction? Seems like disparate treatment to me.
Oh, that's right. No one (outside of a few SEC schools) in the country actually cares about college baseball and it is not a big money maker. So it's ok if we don't include them in our "show of force".
If you are going to hastily throw together a reactionary rule SEC make it universal. Go tell all of the baseball players who were drafted to pack their stuff and leave the locker room
Posted on 8/26/26 at 8:29 am to Alt26
Also a quick Chat GPT search is telling me Dessert (And maybe Santos) were automatically entered into the NBA draft because of their age.... So I mean if that is true seems like there is an argument there... Niang might be done now though. Not seeing a way around that one.
Posted on 8/26/26 at 8:48 am to Pnels08
Niang was the one I was looking most forward to
This is a travesty all the way around
This is a travesty all the way around
Posted on 8/26/26 at 8:55 am to AlecRock23
Are there any transfer bigs in the portal that got a 5th year?
Posted on 8/26/26 at 9:01 am to AlecRock23
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Niang was the one I was looking most forward to
This is a travesty all the way around
100%. Niang would have been dominant in Wade's system.
Posted on 8/26/26 at 9:17 am to Pnels08
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Niang might be done now though. Not seeing a way around that one.
How is Niang any different than Logan Schmidt other than they play different sports?
Neither Niang nor Schmidt attended a US college or participated in an NCAA sport prior to being drafted. Neither signed a US pro contract. But Niang is excluded simply because he plays basketball whereas Schmidt is a-ok simply because he plays baseball?
That is a VERY easy argument to make in court that the SEC in this instance is arbitrary and capricious in its rulemaking reflected by the disparate treatment of athletes depending on the sport.
Posted on 8/26/26 at 9:25 am to Alt26
I agree but also think Niang could just say screw it and go back to euro ball.
Posted on 8/26/26 at 9:33 am to Alt26
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But it is totally fine to declare and actually get drafted by MLB? Why the distinction? Seems like disparate treatment to me.
Totally different draft structures. MLB can draft any HS senior.
Posted on 8/26/26 at 9:41 am to Alt26
There’s no difference, this is Sankey and his political BS
Posted on 8/26/26 at 9:57 am to Pnels08
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I agree but also think Niang could just say screw it and go back to euro ball.
Perhaps. But the only reason he is coming to play for LSU is he can make more money doing so this year than in the Euroleage. That season doesn't start until late Sept (and it's not like he can't sign with a team after the season starts). So he probably has some time to wait this out given it is potentially a better business opportunity for him.
Posted on 8/26/26 at 10:13 am to rds dc
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Totally different draft structures. MLB can draft any HS senior.
The NCAA has for decades allowed international pro players to come here and play NCAA basketball. They have actually allowed US pro players (the G-league is a pro league) who have played several pro games to then play NCAA basketball. But somehow Niang is treated differently because he was drafted despite never playing in an NBA game or signing a NBA contract?
As usual, these are reactionary hastily conceived rules. That's why the NCAA constantly loses in the courtroom. College football and men's basketball long passed the Rubicon of "amateur sport" into multi-million/billion dollar entertainment business. The NCAA, conferences and schools all knew that. But it was a good business model to not have to pay/share revenue with the "labor" like every other multi-million sports entertainment league. As a lucrative business, the NCAA and the conferences essentially have a monopoly over the lucrative college football and basketball marketplace. That the gets them into the realm of antitrust litigation...which is why they are losing in court.
You can't portray yourself as just a scholastic organization to govern students/amateur athletes in amateur sports...while also selling the rights to broadcast those amateur sports for upwards of a BILLION dollars annually (that's the value of the NCAA tournament tv contract). While you can pretend otherwise, you are a BIG entertainment business and should be treated accordingly.
Posted on 8/26/26 at 10:23 am to Alt26
The NCAA (at the division 2 level and below) has even allowed baseball players who either signed professionally as international free agents (think Dominican guys, etc) or signed out of high school, to go back and play college baseball using each year of pro ball as a year of eligibility used up.
In baseball, the draft is a much more passive thing. You have to actively and formally take your name out of it, rather than affirmatively opting into it.
Hockey takes things a step further and allows teams to draft the rights to a player and hold them for several years while the player continues to play college hockey. Some think this might be a route that baseball goes at some point, but I'm skeptical.
I think each sport should be looked at differently because the respective pro sports all have different entry points based on collective bargaining agreements specific to their sports' players associations.
In baseball, the draft is a much more passive thing. You have to actively and formally take your name out of it, rather than affirmatively opting into it.
Hockey takes things a step further and allows teams to draft the rights to a player and hold them for several years while the player continues to play college hockey. Some think this might be a route that baseball goes at some point, but I'm skeptical.
I think each sport should be looked at differently because the respective pro sports all have different entry points based on collective bargaining agreements specific to their sports' players associations.
Posted on 8/26/26 at 11:56 am to The Truth 34
you have no clue what street ball.
Will Wade has ran the high post pick and roll every where he's been as effectively as any coachin the country!!!!!
Will Wade has ran the high post pick and roll every where he's been as effectively as any coachin the country!!!!!
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