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re: LSU Baseball 2025 (and beyond) Recruiting Thread
Posted on 7/9/25 at 8:36 am to BayTiger13
Posted on 7/9/25 at 8:36 am to BayTiger13
Baby Pearson had a good day in summer league yesterday. Had a double header and he went 4-7 in the 2 games with 1 homer and 3 walks. Best part was 0 Ks.
His first summer game he went 0-5 with 3 Ks and since then has a 6 game hitting streak with only 2 Ks in those 6 games. His average is up to .370 and an OPS of 1.030.
His first summer game he went 0-5 with 3 Ks and since then has a 6 game hitting streak with only 2 Ks in those 6 games. His average is up to .370 and an OPS of 1.030.
Posted on 7/9/25 at 8:55 am to SoloTiger
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He’s a guy with Top 5 pick talent if he returns and dominates on Friday night. We are talking the difference between maybe $2 million and $10 million.
Can someone explain how the 2nd contracts tend to go in MLB? Shores seems like a guy who will start making relief appearances in MLB very quickly. Could it be more beneficial to take the money now and get on that 2nd contract faster?
Posted on 7/9/25 at 8:57 am to BayTiger13
For Shores, you have to weigh several factors.
He will still get a nice signing bonus to begin his career.
He has already had major injury and rehabbed through that.
The sooner he starts the minor league process the sooner he can get to MLB and have an impact and get to that second contract.
Unless he adds pitches or improves his secondary stuff he is not going to be a starter in MLB. He will be better off in the bullpen with a fairly quick runup to MLB.
He will still get a nice signing bonus to begin his career.
He has already had major injury and rehabbed through that.
The sooner he starts the minor league process the sooner he can get to MLB and have an impact and get to that second contract.
Unless he adds pitches or improves his secondary stuff he is not going to be a starter in MLB. He will be better off in the bullpen with a fairly quick runup to MLB.
Posted on 7/9/25 at 9:02 am to SoloTiger
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I don’t expect Shores to return, but I find his situation interesting. He’s a guy with Top 5 pick talent if he returns and dominates on Friday night. We are talking the difference between maybe $2 million and $10 million.
You are repeating Moscona's take on this. I disagree with it bc the sooner Shores gets called up to the bigs, the sooner he can get that next contract where he can make the real money. If Shores is good enough to get that top 5 pick next year, he's good enough to get to the bigs soon. There is a lot of risk coming back for another year, and it's not worth him losing a year of professional baseball. I'd love him to come back, but it doesn't make sense for him to do it. He's got two rings and is going to pocket a bunch of money this year.
Posted on 7/9/25 at 9:06 am to nicholastiger
How do second contracts work for guys that don’t get called up to the MLB? For instance, let’s say Frey goes pro this year but never gets past the minors as a DH. What are the possibilities for a second contract for someone in that position?
Posted on 7/9/25 at 9:14 am to hall59tiger
the drafted contract is good for 7 years in minor league ball, or unless he is released before that. After that runs out they become a free agent and can sign for whatever, though minor league contracts tend to be way less than major league contracts.
a lot of them dont make it to a second contract if they havent been called up to the bigs by then.
a lot of them dont make it to a second contract if they havent been called up to the bigs by then.
This post was edited on 7/9/25 at 9:15 am
Posted on 7/9/25 at 9:18 am to cajuntiger85
Thank you for the response.
I have a follow up question:
What is the salary for a minor league guy and does that increase as they climb the ladder from A to AAA?
I have a follow up question:
What is the salary for a minor league guy and does that increase as they climb the ladder from A to AAA?
Posted on 7/9/25 at 9:25 am to hall59tiger
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What is the salary for a minor league guy and does that increase as they climb the ladder from A to AAA?
I don't remember what the actual numbers are, but it does increase as you climb the ladder. And then again once you're added to the 40 man roster but are still in the minors.
Posted on 7/9/25 at 10:18 am to notbilly
Dear God don’t compare me to Moscona. The take is my own. If Shores could never be a MLB starter then I agree he should jump to MLB.
MLB starter is where the big bucks are both draft bonus wise and MLB contract wise.
Like I said, I don’t expect it, but he is in an interesting spot. Especially if he is offered less than people expect.
MLB starter is where the big bucks are both draft bonus wise and MLB contract wise.
Like I said, I don’t expect it, but he is in an interesting spot. Especially if he is offered less than people expect.
Posted on 7/9/25 at 10:41 am to SoloTiger
Solo Tiger actually played SEC baseball. He knows baseball.
I agree with Baytiger in the sense of it's more about what's in his heart. Is he ready to start his pro career or does he want the experience of another year on campus. Money looks good either way but what is his desire?
I agree with Baytiger in the sense of it's more about what's in his heart. Is he ready to start his pro career or does he want the experience of another year on campus. Money looks good either way but what is his desire?
Posted on 7/9/25 at 10:51 am to SoloTiger
Average reliever in MLB is at $2.3M/yr now. League minimum is $700k.
For the minor league stuff, bare miminum salary at the minor league level seems to range from $20k-$40k from rookie up to AAA ball. This increases with experience, but seems to top out around $70k in AAA with max experience. It's still basically nothing obviously, the goal is to max out your rookie singing bonus and then get to that 2nd contract in MLB ASAP. Getting there in 2-3 years is better than 4-5 years obviously.
You're effectively living off your signing bonus for as long as it takes to get to MLB with some small supplement coming from salary -> teams do provide housing at home now (they didnt have to previously), all travel expenses, 2 meals a day and like $30/day per diem during Feb-Nov (they are off in Dec-Jan).
So honestly you can live pretty cheap now with housing, travel, 2 meals a day with $30/day per diem all provided by the team during the season. What sucks is if you have a wife or some family and want to have a place of their own, thats tough.
For the minor league stuff, bare miminum salary at the minor league level seems to range from $20k-$40k from rookie up to AAA ball. This increases with experience, but seems to top out around $70k in AAA with max experience. It's still basically nothing obviously, the goal is to max out your rookie singing bonus and then get to that 2nd contract in MLB ASAP. Getting there in 2-3 years is better than 4-5 years obviously.
You're effectively living off your signing bonus for as long as it takes to get to MLB with some small supplement coming from salary -> teams do provide housing at home now (they didnt have to previously), all travel expenses, 2 meals a day and like $30/day per diem during Feb-Nov (they are off in Dec-Jan).
So honestly you can live pretty cheap now with housing, travel, 2 meals a day with $30/day per diem all provided by the team during the season. What sucks is if you have a wife or some family and want to have a place of their own, thats tough.
This post was edited on 7/9/25 at 10:54 am
Posted on 7/9/25 at 11:10 am to MetryMojo
Exactly Moscona is a fricking joke and should have his entire platform taken away from him. frick that guy.
Posted on 7/9/25 at 11:19 am to thunderbird1100
It’s a slow news day so I’m throwing out my over/under on HS draftees signing an MLB contract at 6.5 this year.
I’ve got the following 4 going pro as of today…
Young
Fauske
Ebel
Sime
This next group is what will make or break LSU’s class IMO. Love to see LSU land 4 or possibly 5 from this group of 7.
McKenzie
Moss
Hamilton
Paz
Ricken
Hodge
Patrick
I think Braun and Theophilus will be in BR.
I’ve got the following 4 going pro as of today…
Young
Fauske
Ebel
Sime
This next group is what will make or break LSU’s class IMO. Love to see LSU land 4 or possibly 5 from this group of 7.
McKenzie
Moss
Hamilton
Paz
Ricken
Hodge
Patrick
I think Braun and Theophilus will be in BR.
Posted on 7/9/25 at 11:31 am to SoloTiger
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Dear God don’t compare me to Moscona. The take is my own.
Fair enough.
I listened to Moscona talk about Shores and that is almost identical to what he says about Shores. Maybe he's listening to you
Posted on 7/9/25 at 11:35 am to notbilly
He definitely reads these boards for takes. The stupidy he spews is up there with nicholas tiger and ryno
Posted on 7/9/25 at 11:43 am to Glizzy_gang
He definitely does not follow recruiting nor does he know how the draft works. Before saying Dardar was RH, he was saying how Frey could come back & earn himself millions.
Posted on 7/9/25 at 11:47 am to SoloTiger
I'd probably put Briggs McKenzie in the group of 4 you have going pro.
I'll take the over 6.5 unfortunately.
I'll take the over 6.5 unfortunately.
Posted on 7/9/25 at 11:54 am to Lester Earl
He also said when you "start hearing chatter among scouts" as if he knows scouts and followed that with "usually its a good sign of how teams are leaning and with the Nationals its between 2 players and that is Kade Anderson and Liam Doyle."
I've yet to see Liam Doyle's name associated with the Nationals #1 pick in anything so far. Seems they narrowed it to Anderson, Ethan Holliday, or possibly going Seth Hernandez if they want to take a risk on high upside and also possibly save a few million by getting him to sign well below slot value to be the #1 overall pick. Most things I am seeing is the Nationals likely go the safe route and the route that has the quickest turnaround to get to MLB which is Anderson.
I've yet to see Liam Doyle's name associated with the Nationals #1 pick in anything so far. Seems they narrowed it to Anderson, Ethan Holliday, or possibly going Seth Hernandez if they want to take a risk on high upside and also possibly save a few million by getting him to sign well below slot value to be the #1 overall pick. Most things I am seeing is the Nationals likely go the safe route and the route that has the quickest turnaround to get to MLB which is Anderson.
Posted on 7/9/25 at 12:17 pm to BayTiger13
I know the bats have been talked about but what incoming freshmen have the best chance of doing well defensively in the OF? Out of obviously Moss and Patrick but someone mentioned Ruckert as being a potential OF as well.
This post was edited on 7/9/25 at 12:19 pm
Posted on 7/9/25 at 12:35 pm to hall59tiger
Ruckert played OF his freshman year at Catholic. I only mentioned that by saying he has a little experience if the bat plays enough where they need him out there. I don't think that will happen but just threw that scenario out there.
I think Moss and Patrick will both be fully capable of playing LF next season at a high level if they were to make it to campus and win that job. I've seen interviews of Dean Moss saying he wants to prove he can stick in CF because it is thought that he will be a corner OF in MLB. Might be good for LSU to get him to campus if he truly wants to prove that.
I think Moss and Patrick will both be fully capable of playing LF next season at a high level if they were to make it to campus and win that job. I've seen interviews of Dean Moss saying he wants to prove he can stick in CF because it is thought that he will be a corner OF in MLB. Might be good for LSU to get him to campus if he truly wants to prove that.
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