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re: Outdoor Kitchen Design
Posted on 10/3/23 at 2:36 pm to LanierSpots
Posted on 10/3/23 at 2:36 pm to LanierSpots
Not sure if you're aware, but Coyote has a SS built-in pellet grill that looks just like a gas grill. I sold my Primo XL and have this grill in my island. 
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This post was edited on 10/3/23 at 2:39 pm
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Posted on 10/3/23 at 2:55 pm to Ziggy
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Not sure if you're aware, but Coyote has a SS built-in pellet grill that looks just like a gas grill. I sold my Primo XL and have this grill in my island.
Awesome idea. I was not aware that they had that and the designer just recommended the same thing. LOL...
Im not sure about the smoke from it compared to the gas grill though. It may require ventilation if I put it on the right side of my kitchen
Posted on 10/3/23 at 2:57 pm to MikeBRLA
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I'd be nervous putting that butcher block outdoors. I'm no expert, but being that it's unsealed wood I would think that the temperature and humidity changes would cause the end-grain wood blocks to separate. FYI, and you can't seal it since it's used to cut on and food prep. Just something to be cautious of IMO.
I was concerned about that as well. The thing has always been in my kitchen and its looked great inside. I did some investigating and if I seal it correctly, it appears it is fine for covered outside use.
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Can butcher block be used outside?
Can you use a butcher block countertop outside? Yes, you just need to seal the wood with a durable outdoor-rated sealant. Pine, elm, white oak, redwood, and cedar are a few options for your butcher block countertop. Unsealed wood will absorb too much water and struggle to hold up against the elements.
it will be covered out of the direct elements and I have a full cover for it that completely covers it when I am not using it. I honestly think it will be fine out there.
This post was edited on 10/3/23 at 3:00 pm
Posted on 10/3/23 at 3:27 pm to LanierSpots
They are talking about a butcher block countertop that will be used as a counter, not one that will be used directly on for food prep and cutting. Notice how they didn't say anything about food-grade or food safe sealer? If you are using it as a counter (no direct food contact) you would be ok,,,, but not if you use it as a cutting board.
Posted on 10/3/23 at 4:03 pm to MikeBRLA
All the counter tops will be granite. The butchers block discussion is something I am just going to put out there to have a place to cut and extra space to prep food. It is something we have now and have been using for over 30 years that we have no room for anymore in our inside kitchen
I think it will be fine out there.
I think it will be fine out there.
Posted on 10/3/23 at 4:51 pm to LanierSpots
quote:I may have misunderstood but I wouldn’t put a pellet grill in in place of the gas. The gas is so handy, and some things just don’t taste good off of pellets
Awesome idea. I was not aware that they had that and the designer just recommended the same thing. LOL... Im not sure about the smoke from it compared to the gas grill though. It may require ventilation if I put it on the right side of my kitchen
Posted on 10/3/23 at 5:14 pm to tigerfoot
I can’t imagine anything that I would make that I could not cook with a combo of the pellet grill and a griddle.
I could sell my primo and save some space on the lanai.
I could sell my primo and save some space on the lanai.
Posted on 10/3/23 at 5:37 pm to LanierSpots
You can cook it yes. But for me steaks, burgers, chicken breast cooks better on charcoal or gas v pellets.
Posted on 10/3/23 at 6:53 pm to LanierSpots
I would add an electrical outlet on the wall above the counter next to the grill. I did this and use the hell out of it for my electric fryer.
Posted on 10/3/23 at 6:59 pm to LanierSpots
Coyote makes a grill that is gas on one side , charcoal on the other. It’s great.
You will never have enough storage. I have an enclosed sealed under cabinet storage unit with drawers on 1 side open on the other. You can keep utensils, towels, etc with to bugs. Wish I had 2.
Side dual control power burner for frying or crawfish.
You will never have enough storage. I have an enclosed sealed under cabinet storage unit with drawers on 1 side open on the other. You can keep utensils, towels, etc with to bugs. Wish I had 2.
Side dual control power burner for frying or crawfish.
Posted on 10/3/23 at 7:23 pm to LanierSpots
Look at Half and Half from the Milk Paint Company for the butcher block. It’s Tung oil cut with Citrus solvent and all food safe. I use it on cutting boards. You can do the whole thing, legs and all, and it should be well protected. It takes about a month to cure but should be water resistant after that and can be redone as needed. There are other similar products as well.
Posted on 10/3/23 at 7:41 pm to mtcheral
Excellent. Thank you. I will look it up tomorrow. I was hoping someone here would suggest something.
Posted on 10/3/23 at 8:32 pm to skidry
Here’s mine and I put the Trashcan on the end.
This post was edited on 10/3/23 at 8:34 pm
Posted on 10/3/23 at 9:00 pm to Rize
X2. I have to pull out trash can bins and single large deep sink. Easy to clean big pots out there.
Posted on 10/4/23 at 6:04 am to Rize
Dude that is super nice. Excellent. Im limited on space so one 8' section and one 10' bar section is all I have room for.
Great outdoor space
Great outdoor space
Posted on 10/4/23 at 6:22 am to BoogaBear
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I put one of those bar sinks in my basement when I finished it. It's the one thing I would redo. Full size sink.
What size is the one you have that is too small? I was interested in your comment because I didnt want a wasted space for a sink. I checked the manufacturer. The one they are suggesting inside is 16.5"w x 18.5" L. The next size up is huge. The sink in my inside kitchen now is two sides. Each side is 14"x16" and is plenty big for us to use.
The next size up is called a farmhouse sink which is 31"OD and 26"ID. I just dont think I need a sink that big out there. Going to take up a lot of my limited space.
Posted on 10/4/23 at 9:27 am to LanierSpots
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All the counter tops will be granite. The butchers block discussion is something I am just going to put out there to have a place to cut and extra space to prep food. It is something we have now and have been using for over 30 years that we have no room for anymore in our inside kitchen
I think it will be fine out there.
As a woodworking hobbyist, there's not really anything you can put on there that you probably won't have to maintain and re-finish yearly. There are products out there that are safe for "food contact only" and then there are products out there that are safe for also using it as a cutting surface.
If you want to cut directly on the surface, about the only thing you can really put on it is mineral oil (also tug oil or raw linseed oil but mineral oil seems most common). You'll find numerous things out there called cutting board oils, etc. but if you read the ingredients i'd bet 90% of the time it'll be made up of primarily mineral oil and maybe beeswax. This is not waterproof nor will it offer anything for UV protection.
I'm sure it'll last awhile out there but don't expect it to last the rest of your life like it would cared for indoors. It's going to be battling the elements of Florida humidity, dew/condensation, UV exposure, etc.
Your best bet would probably be to put a finish on it that does protect from water and UV exposure, however you should no longer be cutting on it at that point unless you put another cutting board on top of it that you can store indoors. Then your kinda defeating the purpose of a butcher block.
This post was edited on 10/4/23 at 9:33 am
Posted on 10/4/23 at 9:50 am to LanierSpots
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The next size up is called a farmhouse sink which is 31"OD and 26"ID. I just dont think I need a sink that big out there. Going to take up a lot of my limited space.
I have a fullsize single bowl 31" sink in my outdoor kitchen and do not regret it.
i built one at my old house and hated the small sink and under counter fridge.
my current setup is a big L shape. a full size fridge with ice and water is up against house. the sink is next to it with access doors under it. then I have a huge counter space before the turn facing the pool area. I have a two burner top and my grill on that side. storage drawers and a trash can built in drawer as well on side with grill which is a must in my opinion.
for an island I bought a butcher block rolling cart thing from sams. does great.
i can post pics when I get a minute or email them to you.
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Ditch the griddle and add a griddle insert in grill, that’s what i did and do not regret it. It’s awesome! Two burner stove and add the primo in and it’s much more usable
This post was edited on 10/4/23 at 11:03 am
Posted on 10/4/23 at 9:57 am to LSUTIGERTAILG8ER
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One other question to ask yourself:
What all is it that you want to BBQ/Grill that you cannot cook on the flattop griddle?
If you are not 100% sold on both, you could eliminate the gas grill, and use the other space for your Primo XL. just a thought
Same could be said for the griddle as a permanent fixture in the layout.
I'd personally go with Primo Xl and gas grill in the layout, with a flat top griddle insert for my gas grill as an accessory.
Posted on 10/4/23 at 9:58 am to LanierSpots
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butchers block
I'll buy it from you if you're going to just "set it outside"
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