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Not even tradesmen want to work. Keep getting ghosted for a fence repair.

Posted on 4/29/24 at 8:07 am
Posted by Dixie2023
Member since Mar 2023
1519 posts
Posted on 4/29/24 at 8:07 am
I need about 1/2 of a fence and plies replaced. First guy wanted $5k to do the entire length of 60 ft. and completely disregarded what I need. Don’t need the whole thing done. Fencing companies scream all day long on Fb community page they need work, but then they don’t show to take a look when I call. Would it be better to find an all around handy man type person vs a fencing company to do this work? Isn’t something better than nothing if one needs work? I do want all of the fence replaced in a couple of years, and along with a new deck, and would likely call them back for the job if only I could find someone for this small job.
Posted by RaginCajunz
Member since Mar 2009
5372 posts
Posted on 4/29/24 at 8:10 am to
With few rare exceptions, that has been my experience with all nearly all contractors.

Roof
Chimney
Windows (Relief was an exception)
Concrete work
electrical
AC (got a good guy finally)
Pool
Dirt work
etc...etc..etc...

You think it's bad getting them to show up and bid? Wait until whoever you pick screws it up and try getting them back.


Posted by PillageUrVillage
Mordor
Member since Mar 2011
14805 posts
Posted on 4/29/24 at 8:17 am to
This is a big reason why I've learned to do a lot of DIY.

I needed a repair for my brick mailbox. Called about 8 different brick masonry contractors and couldn't get a single one to come look at it. Ended up fixing it myself with the help of youtube.

I recently called a guy to do some dirt work. He had done several houses in my neighborhood and came highly recommended. Good looking work. Talked to him, said to text my address, haven't heard from him in over 2 weeks. Called him again, no answer.

Seems like most of them don't want to mess around with small jobs.
Posted by Dixie2023
Member since Mar 2023
1519 posts
Posted on 4/29/24 at 8:20 am to
A friend said the same thing. Had a hard time finding a floor contractor. It’s crazy!
Posted by slinger1317
Northshore
Member since Sep 2005
5882 posts
Posted on 4/29/24 at 8:21 am to
Same here. It is so hard to find reliable tradesmen these days.

I own some rental properties and I've been through about 3 handymen, 4 painters, etc. Its frustrating as hell. The old days of having reliable people you could call for many years on end is all but gone.
Posted by Tigerlaff
FIGHTING out of the Carencro Sonic
Member since Jan 2010
20885 posts
Posted on 4/29/24 at 8:22 am to
I keep hearing that they are just too in demand and can be picky/discourteous because of it. But they all are also constantly complaining about money. So I'm really not sure which it is.
Posted by Dixie2023
Member since Mar 2023
1519 posts
Posted on 4/29/24 at 8:22 am to
I wish I could. But I’m female and feel it’s beyond my area of ability. Maybe I should learn! Saw a woman who youtubed fence repair and did it. But I need posts in ground, too. I have male friends who could do it, but really don’t want to, but I hate to put it on anyone in case something goes wrong. I save little the things for them to help with.
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
38883 posts
Posted on 4/29/24 at 8:32 am to
there are good tradesmen and available tradesmen. Pick one

also, and no offense to anyone as I am a contractor just giving it to you straight…there’s very little chance a good contractor can make any money on a small one-time residential job. It costs more to go look, price up, get scheduled and get out there than he/she can realistically charge

Someone mentioned 5K above…again just being honest, that’s pretty much a minimum charge regardless of the work for anyone besides a handyman. If you want something some for less, there’s guys in the lot at the depot
Posted by NATidefan
Two hours North of Birmingham
Member since Dec 2008
36106 posts
Posted on 4/29/24 at 8:33 am to
quote:

But I’m female and feel it’s beyond my area of ability. Maybe I should learn!


Do you think guys are just born knowing how to do this stuff?

If you can do some simple math, planning, dig a hole, and learn from youtube you can do it. Nail gun will help for sure and you'll need a circular or miter saw.

The only difference between us and women is that we have learned to have the confidence to do it ourselves and don't have a man that will do it for us... at least for "free".

This post was edited on 4/29/24 at 8:35 am
Posted by tadman
Member since Jun 2020
3841 posts
Posted on 4/29/24 at 8:35 am to
quote:

You think it's bad getting them to show up and bid? Wait until whoever you pick screws it up and try getting them back.



This is the worst part. My wife (no pics) painted a few rooms in our house and they we hired a contractor to do a few rooms including the high ceilings. He first told us our last painter (wife) did great work, then proceeded to do a crappy job, we had him back three times and he made a bigger mess, then told us we didn't know what we were doing and DIY'ers should be quiet.

Then he sent us a bill with all kinds of extras included such as "gas money for running around town". I refused to pay it.
Posted by Dixie2023
Member since Mar 2023
1519 posts
Posted on 4/29/24 at 8:48 am to
Oh, I know. And I wouldn’t expect free. I don’t use people and always pay for any repairs done. I just meant little things like ceiling fans being hanged or whatever, that my friends can do easily. And I always offer pay. One can do electrical work even, and I would never ask him to do anything involved bc he’s a friend. In fact, one has offered to help me to get the whole back row done, but I won’t take any money from anyone. It will be a couple of years bf I can do what I really want. Then I’ll need to hire someone…if I can get anyone to show.
This post was edited on 4/29/24 at 8:53 am
Posted by Dixie2023
Member since Mar 2023
1519 posts
Posted on 4/29/24 at 8:50 am to
Thank you. That would explain it. It is just confusing bc they are begging for work online. One even said he needs to feed his family.
Posted by TheBoo
South to Louisiana
Member since Aug 2012
4534 posts
Posted on 4/29/24 at 8:53 am to
My wife doesn't seem to understand this reality. She thinks there will just always be a contractor available to charge a fair price and do a good job. We got lucky with our roof and window contractors after Ida. We got lucky with having a friend who owns a good, small fence company. I had to do a lot of things myself because of the issue you stated.
Posted by UltimaParadox
Huntsville
Member since Nov 2008
40872 posts
Posted on 4/29/24 at 9:18 am to
It has started to slow down construction wise here where we live, so guessing it is a regional thing.

That being said, it seems like you get three results when asking for a quote on stuff like this.

1. They never show, and never answer the phone
2. They quote a very large number to make it worth their while
3. They give you a decent price, but are months out.

Good luck
Posted by King George
Member since Dec 2013
5379 posts
Posted on 4/29/24 at 9:46 am to
quote:

Keep getting ghosted
I've been experiencing this for quite a while by all types of crafts. Doesn't matter if the job is large or small, at work and at home.

I find I have to reach out to about a dozen or so to hopefully get 5 or 6 to show up. And if you're lucky, 2 might send you quotes. I just don't understand it.

Posted by Dixie2023
Member since Mar 2023
1519 posts
Posted on 4/29/24 at 9:59 am to
A lot of them will go out of business bc more folks will become DIYs.


Thank you all for your responses. Seems to be industry standard. But re smaller jobs, it at least shows you whom not to call for the big jobs. Be honest it’s not worth the while vs “we repair, big or small.” This was about a $1000 job (which included the material as it is only a section of fence) based on estimates who didn’t bother to show to do the work. Good luck to all who are looking. Maybe a drive over to Home Depot on a weekend morning is in order.
Posted by Turnblad85
Member since Sep 2022
1229 posts
Posted on 4/29/24 at 9:59 am to
Sounds like you need a handyman. Someone who has a fence company with a few employees has to make a certain amount to keep those employees around.


Find a handyman who doesn't care if he lives poor but free.
Posted by Dixie2023
Member since Mar 2023
1519 posts
Posted on 4/29/24 at 10:27 am to
Thanks, sounds like it. I’m nearing retirement within 6 to 10 years so will take time to learn to do things. I guess I am just used to when you’d call someone to make a repair and it’s done.
Posted by BilbeauTBaggins
probably stuck in traffic
Member since May 2021
4553 posts
Posted on 4/29/24 at 10:32 am to
Go on Angi's and tell them what you need. You will get a few emails/texts/calls within the hour. We had an Angi's post get done within the week. Replaced some siding on our home and painted the whole thing. Finished the job in about 3 days. Guy initially came to scope out what we needed repaired before painting, sent some people to work all throughout the day the next few days.

For what it's worth, Angi's lists a lot of handyman jobs. You can be specific and find jobs that will require electricians or plumbers, but this sounds like a job that a handyman can easily knock out for you.
Posted by WhiskeyThrottle
Weatherford Tx
Member since Nov 2017
5336 posts
Posted on 4/29/24 at 10:46 am to
I have a buddy that was in a high paying finance career and he decided to quit his job and start a fencing company. He's absolutely killing it. He has about 8 crews that he keeps busy constantly. He says that it is incredibly easy right now. All he does is communicates with his customers, makes sure crews come out when he tells them they'll be there and he goes to each job to make sure the job is done properly. His first year he did over a million in revenue. He said that when something goes wrong, he goes one step ahead to make things right. The crew hit a water line on a job. He went and got the PVC fittings to fix it, went and fixed it same day, then sent a box of Tiff's treats to the homeowner with a sincere apology and the homeowner referred him a few jobs to others. He isn't even the lowest bidder by a stretch. He has healthy margins.

I have to think that right now, if you want to start any kind of trade business, if you can just be communicative with the customers and do what you say, you'll have a pile of work and good margins.
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